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  • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    No they don't....
    Self evidently many here do consider that society should determine whether a woman should give birth..
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
      Rather, that it is society's responsibility to protect the right to life of human beings that cannot defend themselves.
      Does that responsibility extend to supporting the welfare and social programmes necessary to provide assistance [in all its forms] for disadvantaged children and their parents/families?


      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

      Sportin' Life
      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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      • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
        Self evidently many here do consider that society should determine whether a woman should give birth..
        Well, there's that whole DoI thing....

        We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


        And I promise, if men could give birth, I'd feel the same way.

        By the way, have you noticed how American liberals have suddenly remembered what a woman is?

        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          Echoes of The Birth Dearth?
          The only thing I see echoing 'the birth dearth' is the pro-choice movement which kills black babies at a rate of 4 times as much that of white babies. 20 million black babies have been killed in the womb by abortionists since Roe. At the time Roe was decided, there were only 23 million black people in the US.

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          • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

            The only thing I see echoing 'the birth dearth' is the pro-choice movement which kills black babies at a rate of 4 times as much that of white babies. 20 million black babies have been killed in the womb by abortionists since Roe. At the time Roe was decided, there were only 23 million black people in the US.
            So, according to plan, eh?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              Well, there's that whole DoI thing....

              We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

              Unfortunately that famous statement did not include slaves. It was also rather vague about non property owning men.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                Unfortunately that famous statement did not include slaves.
                That was rectified in the amendment process of the Constitution!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  That was rectified in an amendment!
                  It took quite a few decades and a Civil War!
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    It took quite a few decades and a Civil War!
                    Yes.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                      The only thing I see echoing 'the birth dearth' is the pro-choice movement which kills black babies at a rate of 4 times as much that of white babies. 20 million black babies have been killed in the womb by abortionists since Roe. At the time Roe was decided, there were only 23 million black people in the US.
                      Yet some black women are suggesting that this decision will impact adversely black women.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        It took quite a few decades and a Civil War!
                        Far less time than it took most countries

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                        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                          Yet some black women are suggesting that this decision will impact adversely black women.
                          Rather, they feel that their inability to kill their own kids is inconvenient to them and the culture they've created for themselves.

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                          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                            The root of the problem is that religious folks have a perverted view of who EVERYONE is.
                            No. The root of the problem is that foreigners whose butts we already kicked still like to stick their noses in US business.

                            And SCOTUS is now a sectarian body due to its imbalance.
                            So what? As long as the Constitution exists as the supreme law of the US, it'll be just fine.


                            American women are learning that their mortal enemy is right wing Christianity.
                            Atheists trying to tell Christians about Christianity...

                            Define "woman".

                            Women - Abandon the Church because it has abandoned you!
                            Lies.

                            Didache Chapter 2:
                            Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Grave Sin Forbidden. ... you shall not murder a child by abortion...

                            Abortionists have defiled the church and her steadfast teachings.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              Rather, they feel that their inability to kill their own kids is inconvenient to them and the culture they've created for themselves.
                              “own kids” - fascist lies often repeated.

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                              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                                Self evidently many here do consider that society should determine whether a woman should give birth..
                                If the baby is already implanted, yuh. But forcing someone to not kill their child is not the same thing as forcing them to get pregnant in the first place, so your contention is noted and dismissed.
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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