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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostI feel bad for Ray Rice given what he went through as a child (although it's quite a stretch to suggest that the long-time absence of a father figure in his life was somehow related to the domestic violence incident).Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostBoth.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI don't see a contradiction between personal justice and forgiveness and still accepting that legal consequences must occur. If somebody commits rape, the victim may forgive but the rapist must still go to prison.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWell just look at the stats for boys growing up in single parent fatherless homes.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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Originally posted by seer View PostReally? In what sense will you demand justice for yourself and loved ones?
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Originally posted by square_peg View PostYou can't take one aspect of someone's childhood and argue that it must have influenced something that he did twenty years later. Besides, given that such people are likely to come from poor, crime-ridden backgrounds, it's far more likely that it was the lowly economic/social status that had long-reaching influences rather than merely not having a father figure.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI'm a Catholic so I believe we'll all receive the fullness of God's Justice on the day of Judgement. Either you'll be found spotless and white as snow, or you will be damned. That's why we believe that salvation requires repentance and acts of contrition, as well as partaking in Christ's sacrifice. Though this is getting off topic.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Playing Devils advocate...(no I don't condone Ray Rice's behavior) Let me ask this question of you all...would we be having this reaction if the person assaulted had been his a male buddy who is 5'7" 175 lbs? Who hit Ray first on the elevator? (which seems to be the case according to the reports and the video)"What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostPlaying Devils advocate...(no I don't condone Ray Rice's behavior) Let me ask this question of you all...would we be having this reaction if the person assaulted had been his a male buddy who is 5'7" 175 lbs? Who hit Ray first on the elevator? (which seems to be the case according to the reports and the video)Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostPlaying Devils advocate...(no I don't condone Ray Rice's behavior) Let me ask this question of you all...would we be having this reaction if the person assaulted had been his a male buddy who is 5'7" 175 lbs?
Who hit Ray first on the elevator? (which seems to be the case according to the reports and the video)Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by seer View PostProbably not, and yes his wife did hit him first. But that is no excuse. Ya just don't hit girls...1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostNo. Despite all those who are so keen on the idea that men and women are identical in every way, violence against women by men is rather more frowned upon than male-on-male violence.
I haven't watched the video, but I was under the impression that it showed Ray Rice being the only physical aggressor. If a guy takes a swing at another guy, whether or not he connects, society sees him as fair game for physical retaliation in kind. If a football player gets into any sort of fight, whether he initiated it or not, he's likely to face disciplinary action of some sort (though nothing like this)."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Sounds more like a brawl than an assault1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostI watched the video last night. It appears that Ray is in her face on the elevator. She slaps (or hit) him. He pushes her back against the elevator wall and backs up across the elevator. She charges forward at him and he swats at her knocking her down. I don't know if she hits the rail or not, so, it's impossible to say from the video if he knocked her out or the result of the swat did it by knocking her into the rail.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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