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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThere's a very bad tendency to minimise these events when they come out. That's what seer is doing whether he realises it or not. He's shifting blame away from Rice's physical assault of a woman, to the NFL being unfair.
There's no doubt that they aren't, and I have little doubt that he deserves far worse than he got. Janet Palmer ought to have gotten a high payment for what happened to her, his career ends immediately and his contract is cancelled (he doesn't get the 25 million dollars).
I take a very dim view of guys who do things like that. In fact, hearing about crap like this makes me angry.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, in the OP I quoted his wife. She is the person most affected, and she has forgiven him, and didn't want his firing. Doesn't her opinion count for anything?
Not only are they taking away Rice's livelihood...
She married him apparently after he was indicted for third degree aggravated assault, and he might get a 15000$ fine... not even a slap on the wrist for someone who makes an order of magnitude more than that in a month.
Its the equivalent of fining the average American Joe 100$ for beating someone else unconscious.
Hopefully he'll also get the three to five years in jail that he deserves.Last edited by Leonhard; 09-09-2014, 10:39 AM.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostBeyond citing her in order to defend Rice, when have you talked about her? Instead we got this
You all but went ', such a tragic thing to happen to him.'.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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I understand you're not actively trying to defend him. I also know you respect women, and want them to be treated right. I'm not trying to antagonise you, I'm trying to make you aware of something you're doing.
Originally posted by seer View PostAnd as I also made clear it not only effects him it effects his "larger family", including his wife.
And this may or may not apply to Rice, but many of these young black men grow up in situations where they never really develop the emotional tools to deal with anger and frustration.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
Try to read this again, and tell me you're not trying to minimize what he's doing? Is what you're saying really an excuse?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo, it is not an excuse but a fact. Listen Ray never knew his father who was murdered. I never knew my father, and got in a lot of trouble in life. In my neighborhood there are a number of younger black boys - none of them have fathers in their lives, and I just feel bad for them.
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Originally posted by seer View PostShould they have fired him? Here is a tweet from his wife this morning. Not only are they taking away Rice's livelihood they are taking the family's income.The NFL'sRoger Goodell's initial punishment was way too lenient, and it took a huge backlash from that to get the NFL to change its policy in general. The indefinite suspension after the second video went public is an unwarranted, frantic and belated attempt to minimize further damage from the subsequent backlash.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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It's all about perception. Greg Hardy (allegedly) threatened to kill a woman during a domestic incident and he's still playing. There's no video to go viral so the league isn't worried."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThat's good, but a lot of that doesn't excuse physically abusing someone. Rice needs to find a less prestigious job. Perhaps flipping burgers for a living.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt's all about perception. Greg Hardy (allegedly) threatened to kill a woman during a domestic incident and he's still playing. There's no video to go viral so the league isn't worried.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI can respect that and still demand justice.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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I feel bad for Ray Rice given what he went through as a child (although it's quite a stretch to suggest that the long-time absence of a father figure in his life was somehow related to the domestic violence incident). I hope he truly repents of this and becomes a better man, and I wish him, Janay Palmer and their families well. I also firmly believe that he shouldn't be allowed to play professional football ever again. There's no contradiction between any of these statements.Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17
I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer
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