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Democrat Congressman Engages In Insurrection At The Capitol
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
According to that extreme right wing rag NPR....
Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York says he mistakenly triggered a fire alarm in a congressional office building Saturday afternoon as elected officials were preparing to vote on a spending bill to avert a potential government shutdown.
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Paul Starks, a spokesperson for the United States Capitol Police, said a fire alarm was activated at 12:05 p.m. Saturday on the second floor of the Cannon House Office Building. USCP officers initiated an evacuation and checked the building, he added.
"The building was reopened after it was determined that there was not a threat," Starks said. "An investigation into what happened and why continues."
Bowman said he met with the Sergeant at Arms and the Capitol Police after the vote to explain what occurred.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
I suppose you read minds as well. Yes like pulling an alarm. Whether his intent was in trying to delay a vote or not is in question. That may or may not have been his intent, but that's just your rush to judgement opinion.
It's a possibility, but it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense since democrats could delay the vote as long as they wished at the proceeding itself whiich,, as I already pointed out, they did just that.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
JimL. You are not supposed to go through Emergency Exit Only doors unless there is an emergency. It was clearly marked. That he wanted to go through those doors anyway is not an accident. It is either stupidity, he thinks he is above the law, or he did it deliberately to cause a panic and stop the vote. Being a representative I would hope he isn't stupid.
Trying to go through an Emergency Exit ONLY door and pulling a fire alarm in order to get through the door is not a "mistake"
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Perhaps Starlight doesn't know his AM from his PM
Yeah, I never go with "12 PM" --- I'll say NOON or "Noon-thirty" or something.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Perhaps Starlight doesn't know his AM from his PM
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by JimL View PostFirst off, I think you are mistaken. Emergency exits are usually locked from the outside only, but can still be used, opened from the inside in order to leave a building.
In this case Bowmen said they wouldn't open.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostPeople, even smart people like yourself, are capable of doing stupid things. People here have claimed that the doors can always open from the inside. I don't know if that is true, but Bowmen says they wouldn't open. If he's lying about that, then why has no one in Congress or the Capitol police that are familiar with that exit contradicted Bowmen in that regard. If all he did was go straight to the alarm and set it off then we'd have the answer. That it was deliberate! If he actually tried to open the door first, and then looked for and set of the alarm, then we would also have the answer. It was a mistake. Pretty simple. Where's the video!
Notice what's missing in the description: he didn't try the doors again after pulling the alarm when his boneheaded excuse is he thought that's how he could unlock them. Instead, he ran away and easily found another door to leave through.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Star chose to use the "he's that stupid" defense. My guess would be arrogance - "I need to get out, so that doesn't apply to me".
He may not have taken time to read the signs (or understand them), and we know (from reading the signs) that just pushing on the bar wouldn't open the door right away.
He's probably going to get the benefit of the doubt as to whether it was his intent to delay the vote, given that he's willing to let people believe he just did something really stupid.
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Originally posted by JimL View Post
First off, I think you are mistaken. Emergency exits are usually locked from the outside only, but can still be used, opened from the inside in order to leave a building. In this case Bowmen said they wouldn't open. Like I said, I don't know whether he's lying about that or not, but the video would show whether he tried to open the doors or not.
He should not have tried to go through the doors in the first place. That he then set off a fire alarm in an attempt to go through the emergency doors is the icing on the cake. He broke the law. On purpose.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
No, this thread is exposing the double standards of people like you and JimL. Thank you for proving the point.
EtA: arguments what he did was wrong, or potentially pre-meditated apart from the lunacy it compares to jan6, otoh, are legit.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 10-02-2023, 11:08 AM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Could be a combination of stupidity AND arrogance (which to me sounds like a description of a typical congressperson), along with a dash of panic at being late to an important vote.
He may not have taken time to read the signs (or understand them), and we know (from reading the signs) that just pushing on the bar wouldn't open the door right away.
He's probably going to get the benefit of the doubt as to whether it was his intent to delay the vote, given that he's willing to let people believe he just did something really stupid.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Could be a combination of stupidity AND arrogance (which to me sounds like a description of a typical congressperson), along with a dash of panic at being late to an important vote.
He may not have taken time to read the signs (or understand them), and we know (from reading the signs) that just pushing on the bar wouldn't open the door right away.
He's probably going to get the benefit of the doubt as to whether it was his intent to delay the vote, given that he's willing to let people believe he just did something really stupid.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostCould be a combination of stupidity AND arrogance (which to me sounds like a description of a typical congressperson), along with a dash of panic at being late to an important vote.
He may not have taken time to read the signs (or understand them), and we know (from reading the signs) that just pushing on the bar wouldn't open the door right away.
(It sounds like you're lining up with Star and JimL on the "stupidity defense")
Do we really need somebody that dumb in Congress?
He's probably going to get the benefit of the doubt as to whether it was his intent to delay the vote, given that he's willing to let people believe he just did something really stupid.Last edited by Cow Poke; 10-02-2023, 11:57 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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