House Speaker?

[shunyadragon]

McCarthy pulled it off after midnight. The radical election deniers loose.

[rogue06]

McCarthy in.

Edit: WITHOUT getting 218 votes.

I went to bed when they were voting on adjourning for the weekend. I guess they decided not to then.

[rogue06]

McCarthy pulled it off after midnight. The radical election deniers loose.

You think? What did McCarthy have to give them to get the votes?

One thing this accomplished was to flush the threat of a Democrat getting the Speakership when the Republicans are in the majority and if they don't bend the knee to who their leadership tells them to. They've successfully used that empty threat a couple times in the past

[shunyadragon]

You think? What did McCarthy have to give them to get the votes?

One thing this accomplished was to flush the threat of a Democrat getting the Speakership when the Republicans are in the majority and if they don't bend the knee to who their leadership tells them to. They've successfully used that empty threat a couple times in the past

It is unfortunate that the radical 'election deniers' have so much influence in the Republican Party to cause this controversy. The Republican Party remains divided in controversy.

With Trump fading the radical movement he instigated remains. What will their influence be in the up coming two years and beyond?

[Cow Poke]

From everything I heard the concessions that the freedom caucus got were good things. I haven't see the actual list yet...

From what I saw this morning, I'm encouraged.

Now, will Matt Gaetz resign like he threatened? Or will he join all those people who were moving to Canada and never did.

Ah... looks like he made it conditional... Matt Gaetz says he will resign from Congress if Democrats help elect 'moderate Republican'

[rogue06]

It is unfortunate that the radical 'election deniers' have so much influence in the Republican Party to cause this controversy. The Republican Party remains divided in controversy.

With Trump fading the radical movement he instigated remains. What will their influence be in the up coming two years and beyond?

I suspect that if what these "radical 'election deniers'" were arguing for was seen, free from MSM distortions, some 70% of Americans would agree with at least most of them. For instance, one of these "radical 'election deniers'" was trying to prevent the typical corrupt practice of presenting a 4000 page spending bill and providing only a day or maybe two to vote on it. Care to wager on whether or not an overwhelming majority of Americans would heartily agree with that?

[Reepicheep]

With Trump fading the radical movement he instigated remains. What will their influence be in the up coming two years and beyond?

What's interesting and a little bit terrifying is that the Freedom Caucus has more or less rejected Trump because he isn't radical enough for them (e.g., Trump supported McCarthy's speaker bid, but the Freedom Caucus ignored him). Nothing good will come from some of the promises some members of the Freedom Caucus have made (for example, the promise that the debt ceiling won't be raised).

If the Freedom Caucus follows through on all their promises and threats, then the result will be two years of political turmoil, which will likely result in a Democrat President, House, and Senate being elected in 2024.

[shunyadragon]

I suspect that if what these "radical 'election deniers'" were arguing for was seen, free from MSM distortions, some 70% of Americans would agree with at least most of them. For instance, one of these "radical 'election deniers'" was trying to prevent the typical corrupt practice of presenting a 4000 page spending bill and providing only a day or maybe two to vote on it. Care to wager on whether or not an overwhelming majority of Americans would heartily agree with that?

So what if a few good bones are in the mix?!?!? Everyone including Trump has a 'few' good things to offer, but you have to consider the agenda of the radical 'Freedom Caucus' agenda as a whole including conspiracy theories like the election denial, and January 6 was a picnic on the Capital lawn, which are popular in the Republican Party. Trump opened pardora's box and the Republican Party has to live with it.

[Gondwanaland]

Boebert looked like she was going to cry when she voted "present" and sat down so I guess either Trump gave her a scolding or someone got some dirt on her (proof of the escort rumors perhaps?).

[firstfloor]

McCarthy pulled it off after midnight. The radical election deniers loose.

Actually, they won a heap of concessions from a severely weakened (small majority) leader. The next two years is going to be a mess unless the cross-party centrists get a grip. I am sure the right wing of the Dems will be looking for ways to neutralize the demonic six.

[Faber]

I suspect that if what these "radical 'election deniers'" were arguing for was seen, free from MSM distortions, some 70% of Americans would agree with at least most of them. For instance, one of these "radical 'election deniers'" was trying to prevent the typical corrupt practice of presenting a 4000 page spending bill and providing only a day or maybe two to vote on it. Care to wager on whether or not an overwhelming majority of Americans would heartily agree with that?

Let us not forget that the recently elected house minority leader is also a radical election denier.

[rogue06]

So what if a few good bones are in the mix?!?!? Everyone including Trump has a 'few' good things to offer, but you have to consider the agenda of the radical 'Freedom Caucus' agenda as a whole including conspiracy theories like the election denial, and January 6 was a picnic on the Capital lawn, which are popular in the Republican Party. Trump opened pardora's box and the Republican Party has to live with it.

You do realize that this had nothing whatsoever to do with Trump and everything to do with McCarthy? Of course you don't. Your obsessive fixation blinds you to everything else.

You should be thankful that even in its worst stages TDS isn't fatal.

[shunyadragon]

Let us not forget that the recently elected house minority leader is also a radical election denier.

True in early votes after the elections, but since has moderated his view. Nonetheless conspiracies such as 'election denial, and other conspiracy theories,' has over run the Republican Party, and has broad support at the base. The 'Freedom Caucus' definitely has more radial extreme agendas.

[rogue06]

Let us not forget that the recently elected house minority leader is also a radical election denier.

The MSM assures us that doesn't count since they have declared that only Trump supporters can be considered election deniers.

That is the position that Time magazine, for just one example, has taken, when folks started pointing out that Jeffries is an election denier:

"The term “election denier” has taken on a particular meaning, however, after Trump’s failed re-election campaign. The phrase has come to be associated with Republicans who claim the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, assert without evidence there was fraud in 2020 voting, and cast doubt on secure voting systems—claims that lead to the deadly January 6, 2021 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Calling Jeffries an “election denier’ is misleading and conflates different issues"

[rogue06]

True in early votes after the elections, but since has moderated his view.

You really haven't got a clue why he is regarded as an election denier, do you? It has nothing to do with "votes."