Why is the left having fits about the new Virginia School Requirement?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So, more of your typical pedantic nonsense. I know where it comes from.

I am glad to read that.

Never claimed that.



No foolin'. But public education is something we actually PAY for, and the return on the investment is horrible.
Rather than focus on actual education, the public school system plays social engineering.

You pay for a lot of things - it's generally known as taxation.

I am reluctant to accept your sweeping comments on the US public education system as necessarily being reliable.

Although as I have previously written there are some serious issues with the present quality of American public education, as US rankings against other countries regularly demonstrates.

In his book Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, Neil Postmen argued that the dumbing down of the USA really took off in the nineteenth century when fewer books were being read as new inventions, photography, the telegraph, and later, cinema took hold.

The gradual slide into general ignorance has often been led from the very top. In the early 1960s a certain B list actor named Ronald Reagan made a radio broadcast that included the following:

we can do without a few freedoms in order to enjoy government by an intellectual elite which obviously knows what is best for us

subsidizing intellectual curiosity

One might opine that Reagan was the first of the more recent US presidents to have a distinctly anti-intellectual bias being neither intellectually curious nor particularly well-read. Indeed, did he read any books at all? One suspects not given some of his crass [and hilarious] comments.

If you do not need to be overly well educated or intellectual to become a House Representative, Senator, or even the POTUS why is it necessary for John and Jane Doe to bother?

And politicians who know as little as they do seem to appeal to large swathes of the US electorate.

[Cow Poke]

I am glad to read that.

You pay for a lot of things - it's generally known as taxation.

WOW, I didn't know that!!!

I am reluctant to accept your sweeping comments on the US public education system as necessarily being reliable.

Yes, people are leaving the public school system in droves because it's so wonderful.

[Cow Poke]

Although as I have previously written there are some serious issues with the present quality of American public education, as US rankings against other countries regularly demonstrates.

Public Sector unions are in charge of the US Education system, and they represent the dues- paying employees, not the students.
(I doubt this is true anywhere else in the civilized world)

There is, therefore, very little hope that the education system will improve, because the focus is not on the children OR on actual education.

When parents attempt to make the system better, they are labeled as troublemakers and even designated as "domestic terrorists".

As a result, a number of things are happening.
A) Many communities are seeing their local school boards being taken over (through the legitimate election process) by conservatives.
2) Many parents are showing up at school board meetings to demand change.
C) When parents don't believe they're getting the redress they deserve, they exercise the option to take their kids out of the public school system.

Parents are in charge of the destiny of their children, not the state, and not the public sector unions.

[rogue06]

Really bad question - you appear to think children are wards of the state.

What you don't understand is the miserable state of education in our public schools.
They can't even effectively teach the basics - so they don't need to take up classroom time showing what perverts they can be.

It has gotten so bad that it is common for valedictories of the schools that have been in the grips of the left the longest -- those in urban areas -- to have to first take remedial classes in college in order to get the equivalent of a 12th grade education before they can take college-level classes.

[rogue06]

Parents decide. It ends where they decide.

They are the ones who elect school boards and the like so in the end the decision ultimately rests with them.

[seer]

I asked you if you considered education should be a pick and mix? You never answered that.

Yes of course they get to pick and choose on moral issues. Like you said it is highly subjective.

According to your link the teacher simply removed their facial mask.

No he or she is pushing a trans ideology to children, if that happened in my school district they would have been fired on the spot.

It has led to persecution and mass murder including death camps and gulags.

You seem pretty intolerant of my ideals and beliefs Ms.Braun.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

WOW, I didn't know that!!!



Yes, people are leaving the public school system in droves because it's so wonderful.

Your society's problems do not start and end at the school gates. As long as vast swathes of the US population are willing [and often eager] to vote for the uneducated and intellectually incurious there is no incentive to become educated - in the broadest sense of that word.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yes of course they get to pick and choose on moral issues. Like you said it is highly subjective.

Given that young people talk about sex with one another, what purpose does it serve to remove those young people from classes where they can discuss sexual issues in a dispassionate and objective forum? You cannot control young people in what they think and discuss amongst themselves.

No he or she is pushing a trans ideology to children,

You read a remarkable amount into a brief video clip..

You seem pretty intolerant of my ideals and beliefs Ms.Braun.

You are entitled to your beliefs but do not attempt to foist them on to other people.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Public Sector unions are in charge of the US Education system, and they represent the dues- paying employees, not the students.
(I doubt this is true anywhere else in the civilized world)

There is, therefore, very little hope that the education system will improve, because the focus is not on the children OR on actual education.

When parents attempt to make the system better, they are labeled as troublemakers and even designated as "domestic terrorists".

As a result, a number of things are happening.
A) Many communities are seeing their local school boards being taken over (through the legitimate election process) by conservatives.
2) Many parents are showing up at school board meetings to demand change.
C) When parents don't believe they're getting the redress they deserve, they exercise the option to take their kids out of the public school system.

Parents are in charge of the destiny of their children, not the state, and not the public sector unions.

What an arrogant statement. No parent is in charge of their children's "destiny".

Everyone is free to make their own lives as they see fit.

[seer]

Your society's problems do not start and end at the school gates. As long as vast swathes of the US population are willing [and often eager] to vote for the uneducated and intellectually incurious there is no incentive to become educated - in the broadest sense of that word.

Actually it does start at the school gates. We don't teach history, or civics, or Constitutional principles any more.

Fewer than half of Americans can name all three branches of government, survey finds

https://thehill.com/changing-america...-survey-finds/

Americans in 2022: 1 in 4 can’t name any branches of government

https://studyfinds.org/americans-202...policy-survey/

Poll shows 41 percent of Americans can’t name U.S. vice president

https://dailytrojan.com/2010/09/30/p...ice-president/

[seer]

Given that young people talk about sex with one another, what purpose does it serve to remove those young people from classes where they can discuss sexual issues in a dispassionate and objective forum? You cannot control young people in what they think and discuss amongst themselves.

So what? Again, kids can get age appropriate instruction in school with parental permission. Why are you so against that? Why should your beliefs be forced on others?

You read a remarkable amount into a brief video clip.

.

But you would have no problem if she/he was pushing trans ideology - correct? I bet you would have no problem with drag queens preforming in schools. Right?

You are entitled to your beliefs but do not attempt to foist them on to other people.

Are you really this slow? Every law is someone forcing their beliefs on someone else. I'm sure the rapist or racist doesn't want your beliefs forced on them.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Actually it does start at the school gates. We don't teach history, or civics, or Constitutional principles any more.

Fewer than half of Americans can name all three branches of government, survey finds

https://thehill.com/changing-america...-survey-finds/

Americans in 2022: 1 in 4 can’t name any branches of government

https://studyfinds.org/americans-202...policy-survey/

Poll shows 41 percent of Americans can’t name U.S. vice president

https://dailytrojan.com/2010/09/30/p...ice-president/

I also recall a vox pop from 2003 that showed Americans in the street could not place Iraq on a world map, even though US troops were in that country. Or that some young [teen] Americans in 2001 had no idea what Pearl Harbour was [that was the year the abysmal movie of the same name was released].

However, the USA is not alone in its dumbed down electorate. The British magazine Private Eye regularly runs a Dumb Britain section that quotes answers from contestants on various television and radio quiz shows.

Wider societal issues are more complex and cannot be blamed entirely on the public school system.

[seer]

Wider societal issues are more complex and cannot be blamed entirely on the public school system.

But most of it can, if you have no clue about your history, your form of government, your rights and duties under that system, etc... You have nowhere to go but down...

[Cow Poke]

What an arrogant statement. No parent is in charge of their children's "destiny".

I'm not sure if you're that stupid, or you're just doing your thing again. Of course we're not totally in charge of a child's destiny, but we have a responsibility as parents to do our best to point that child in the right direction. This would include protecting them from perverts and crazy German cat ladies.

Everyone is free to make their own lives as they see fit.

Yet, here you are, ing hard against of us who are trying to do just that.

[seer]

Yet, here you are, ing hard against of us who are trying to do just that.

Bingo!