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  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    Did ANYBODY claim parents should be permitted carte blanche on what they deem appropriate?
    If parents are allowed to decide what their children should and should not be taught, where does it end?
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      If parents are allowed to decide what their children should and should not be taught, where does it end?
      Really bad question - you appear to think children are wards of the state.

      What you don't understand is the miserable state of education in our public schools.
      They can't even effectively teach the basics - so they don't need to take up classroom time showing what perverts they can be.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
        It has led to persecution and mass murder including death camps and gulags.
        Depends on the "particular ideals" in question.

        What he said was
        Being intolerant of particular ideals and behaviors is a moral good...
        A normal person would agree that the wanton rape of women is a something of which we should be intolerant.
        Rape of a child, even more so.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          And won't even bother Googling it because if you did it would become awfully difficult to maintain your narrative.
          Having duly done so it appears to be a Right-wing Twitter account. Why should that change my "narrative" as you term it?


          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          The point you ignored is that everything you worry about taking place in private schools is already happening in epidemic proportions in public schools, so worrying it might also take place in private schools is hardly a legitimate reason to oppose moving to a private school.
          And the point you ignored is that these problems are societal. They are not produced by public schools.

          However, if parents are allowed to set the curriculum for what their offspring are taught, where does that end?
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Depends on the "particular ideals" in question.
            Unfortunately, seer did not qualify his comment by defining what those "particular ideals and behaviours" might be.


            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
              And the point you ignored is that these problems are societal. They are not produced by public schools.
              How do you think these "societal problems" come about? You're, no doubt, familiar with the concept "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world", yes?
              The social engineering in our public schools that took hold in the early 60s is bearing its rotten fruit.

              However, if parents are allowed to set the curriculum for what their offspring are taught, where does that end?
              Well, for one, we might return to reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic, geography, science.... Wouldn't that be tragic!?!?!?!

              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                Really bad question - you appear to think children are wards of the state.
                That does not address my question.


                However, if parents are allowed to set the curriculum for what their offspring are taught, where does that end?


                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  That does not address my question.


                  However, if parents are allowed to set the curriculum for what their offspring are taught, where does that end?

                  Already answered. And, yes, it DID address the question.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    Did ANYBODY claim parents should be permitted carte blanche on what they deem appropriate?
                    Nor should they be declared "domestic terrorists" for exercising their First Amendment rights in school board meetings. We pay the taxes for the schools, we should have some input into how they operate.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      How do you think these "societal problems" come about? You're, no doubt, familiar with the concept "the hand that rocks the cradle rocks the world", yes?
                      It is hardly a "concept
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      The social engineering in our public schools that took hold in the early 60s is bearing its rotten fruit.
                      I would note that education rather like child rearing goes in fashions. There are clearly many problems within US education policy as is evidenced by the country's international ranking. However, I do not consider you can place the entire blame for the last sixty years of US society entirely on the public education system.

                      Other factors have to be included.


                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        Already answered. And, yes, it DID address the question.
                        Where does it end and who decides?
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                          Where does it end and who decides?
                          Parents decide. It ends where they decide.

                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                            It is hardly a "concept
                            So, more of your typical pedantic nonsense. I know where it comes from.

                            I would note that education rather like child rearing goes in fashions. There are clearly many problems within US education policy as is evidenced by the country's international ranking. However, I do not consider you can place the entire blame for the last sixty years of US society entirely on the public education system.
                            Never claimed that.

                            Other factors have to be included.
                            No foolin'. But public education is something we actually PAY for, and the return on the investment is horrible.
                            Rather than focus on actual education, the public school system plays social engineering.

                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                              Parents decide. It ends where they decide.
                              Then you leave the way open for potentially damaging [and dangerous] possibilities.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                                Then you leave the way open for potentially damaging [and dangerous] possibilities.
                                Wow... you mean like real life?
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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