Single Mother Hood And Household Income...

[rogue06]

Unfortunate that conservative policy makes 1 and 3 (and arguably 2) more difficult than they need to be.

In the liberal mindset an abortion is the universal cure for anything that ails ya.

[Psychic Missile]

In the liberal mindset an abortion is the universal cure for anything that ails ya.

Nothing to do with abortion. I'm referring to things like a higher minimum wage, expanded worker's rights, comprehensive sex-ed, and better access to contraception.

[seer]

Nothing to do with abortion. I'm referring to things like a higher minimum wage, expanded worker's rights, comprehensive sex-ed, and better access to contraception.

How is it that Asians, a minority, do so much better than every one else even without all the extras above?

[Gondwanaland]

How is it that Asians, a minority, do so much better than every one else even without all the extras above?

Indeed, an excellent question.

Well, we do know it isn't anything to do with race, or, say anti-black racism (like the left so loves to blame), because we can look at African-born immigrants and see that they and their families do leaps and bounds better than African-Americans native to America, despite often coming to the country with a state of poverty far lower than anything any 'poor' in America have ever experienced. So it clearly has nothing to do with race, nor anti-black racism (they're black as well, often even moreso than native-born African-Americans.

In reality, I suspect most of it is a culture thing. The current greatest threat to African Americans in the US is the culture that has developed in their communities in the last 40 or so years, IMO.

[Psychic Missile]

How is it that Asians, a minority, do so much better than every one else even without all the extras above?

Why does it matter?

[Ronson]

Indeed, an excellent question.

Well, we do know it isn't anything to do with race, or, say anti-black racism (like the left so loves to blame), because we can look at African-born immigrants and see that they and their families do leaps and bounds better than African-Americans native to America, despite often coming to the country with a state of poverty far lower than anything any 'poor' in America have ever experienced. So it clearly has nothing to do with race, nor anti-black racism (they're black as well, often even moreso than native-born African-Americans.

In reality, I suspect most of it is a culture thing. The current greatest threat to African Americans in the US is the culture that has developed in their communities in the last 40 or so years, IMO.

Yep. There is some real poison in black culture right now. I can't find it online, but I recall about 20 years ago Spike Lee was raging about how how black culture had embraced ignorance; that is was "cool" to be uneducated.

[seer]

Why does it matter?

Perhaps because hard work and right living, without all of your government benefits, pays off - no matter the race,,,

[Psychic Missile]

Perhaps because hard work and right living, without all of your government benefits, pays off - no matter the race,,,

If that were true, hard work and right living would pay off more if low-income wages kept pace with inflation.

[rogue06]

Nothing to do with abortion. I'm referring to things like a higher minimum wage, expanded worker's rights, comprehensive sex-ed, and better access to contraception.

I haven't run across anyone trying to restrict access to contraception for decades. Next you'll be complaining about needing to take the lead out of gasoline.

As for the first two, typically you end up helping two and putting three in the unemployment line. That's not a net gain. But then again, one of the leaders from your side is positively giddy about high unemployment numbers calling it "funemployment" and talking about how lucky they are to have the time to pursue favorite past-times and hobbies.

[rogue06]

How is it that Asians, a minority, do so much better than every one else even without all the extras above?

And there has been a lot in the news lately about the sort of discrimination they face. And yet...

[seer]

If that were true, hard work and right living would pay off more if low-income wages kept pace with inflation.

That is nonsense, minimum wage jobs are meant to be a stepping stone. Every place I worked payed way more than minimum wage.

[rogue06]

If that were true, hard work and right living would pay off more if low-income wages kept pace with inflation.

Look at that graphic I posted again. There is a pretty successful path out of poverty. It works three out of four times.

Stay in school, don't have a kid when you're still one yourself and when you graduate, stay employed.

If you want to improve the odds even more I'd add stay away from drugs and alcohol. I'd be willing to wager that is a factor with the majority of the 25% who don't advance out of poverty following those three simple steps.

[Psychic Missile]

I haven't run across anyone trying to restrict access to contraception for decades. Next you'll be complaining about needing to take the lead out of gasoline.

As for the first two, typically you end up helping two and putting three in the unemployment line. That's not a net gain. But then again, one of the leaders from your side is positively giddy about high unemployment numbers calling it "funemployment" and talking about how lucky they are to have the time to pursue favorite past-times and hobbies.

Burwell v. Hobby Lobby for one, but I'm more specifically talking about providing contraception in middle schools and high schools. Your characterization of minimum wage and workers rate is inaccurate, and what any given "leader" on my "side" says is irrelevant and a straw man.

[Psychic Missile]

That is nonsense, minimum wage jobs are meant to be a stepping stone. Every place I worked payed way more than minimum wage.

If that were true, they would be a better stepping stone if their wages kept pace with inflation.

[seer]

If that were true, they would be a better stepping stone if their wages kept pace with inflation.

Many states like mine have a higher minimum wage than what the Feds require. But I'm against all minimum wage requirements.