Praying to Mary is worshiping Mary

[foudroyant]

I'm not even surprised that you dodged the question. It was fun at first, now it's just boring. Until you're willing to acknowledge, at the very least, how novel your argument is, I'm gonna go spend my time more productively. In the mean time, there is a Catholic Answers piece that explores the etymology and historical definition of the English word "worship." Some here may find it interesting.

You just don't approve how the evidence refutes your heresy.

[tabibito]

And there is no dictionary that defines worship as prayer, nor is there a dictionary that defines prayer as worship. What some dictionaries do is explain that worship can be expressed in the form of prayer.

A person can worship simply by bowing down. This doesn't mean that bowing down is worship, or that worship is bowing down. It means that the person expresses worship by bowing down.

He might worship in other ways as well, and he might bow down as a matter of simply being polite.

[foudroyant]

But we have much fuller liturgical prayers that have been handed down through the centuries

Prayer in the Bible is always worship.
What you and others are doing is not a fuller understanding of it but an overthrow of it.

[tabibito]

Prayer in the Bible is always worship.

A bare assertion that you have never even come close to substantiating with any citation from the Bible.

[foudroyant]

And there is no dictionary that defines worship as prayer, nor is there a dictionary that defines prayer as worship. What some dictionaries do is explain that worship can be expressed in the form of prayer.

A person can worship simply by bowing down. This doesn't mean that bowing down is worship, or that worship is bowing down. It means that the person expresses worship by bowing down.

He might worship in other ways as well, and he might bow down as a matter of simply being polite.

Prayer is always worship.
I have 100% of the time it is done in the Bible to back me up on this wile you have 0% of the time.

But you will stick with zero.

[foudroyant]

A bare assertion that you have never even come close to substantiating with any citation from the Bible.

Wrong. I already cited 1 Corinthians 1:2.

[foudroyant]

You dodged this:

What did the Lord Jesus call the Temple? --- A house of PRAYER.

[robrecht]

Prayer in the Bible is always worship.
What you and others are doing is not a fuller understanding of it but an overthrow of it.

False accusation.

[tabibito]

1Co 1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Has nothing to do with whether prayer is worship.

[foudroyant]

False accusation.

Not false because by praying to Mary one is worshiping Mary....and worship is due unto God alone.

[foudroyant]

1Co 1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Has nothing to do with whether prayer is worship.

Wrong again.
Post #2 Letter "G"
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...the-Lord-Jesus

[One Bad Pig]

Figured that....your opinion trumps all.
Blow it somewhere else.

Oh, the irony.

[foudroyant]

The irony of me citing plenty of dictionaries to back up my assertions.

[One Bad Pig]

By claiming to know what Catholics teach and believe, but supposedly do not admit to teaching or believing, you assume the very knowledge of their hearts that you claim to know that Mary and the saints cannot have.

Exactly. A pity he's too blinded by his dogmatic assertions to see that.

[robrecht]

Not false because by praying to Mary one is worshiping Mary....and worship is due unto God alone.

Absolutely false. I do not worship Mary and have never done so. I have not done what you accuse me of doing and you are not able to know my heart and hence have no way of knowing if what you say is true.