New Undercover Video of Planned Parenthood

[Roy]

That isn't what it is at all James because baby has specific connotations attached to it while the term 'fetus' doesn't. Technically the stages of human development do not contain the term 'baby' either. The proper terms would be infant-toddler-early childhood to describe the early human development process and the word 'baby' is never used because it is word attached with many means and thus why you wouldn't hear the term 'baby' in a biology or heath course.

That was exactly my point.

If "baby" has many meanings, not all of which are relevant, why do you insist on using it when there are narrower terms available?

Roy

[seer]

New Video, warning, it is graphic

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/2...gan-harvester/

[hamster]

New Video, warning, it is graphic

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/2...gan-harvester/

I don't know what to say. The woman at 4:08 couldn't have come across as more stereotypically evil if she was demanding a dalmation fur coat

[Mountain Man]

Has Sam given any indication he supports abortion or is he contribution to the thread been focused on helping his Christian brethren improve their rhetoric?

Sam is a nominal Christian. He has no interest in "helping his brethren improve their rhetoric". His primary interest here is defendng godless liberalism.

[hamster]

Though to be fair people would actually care if she was talking about dismembering dalmations

[Cow Poke]

Though to be fair people would actually care if she was talking about dismembering dalmations

Or baby seals.

[Mountain Man]

Or baby seals.

You save the whales, you save the seals
You save whatever's cute and squeals
But you kill that thing that's in the womb
Would not want no baby boom
Good, bad, laugh, and scorn
Blame yourself for kiddie porn
Convenience is the law you keep
And your compassion's ankle deep

Who you tryin' to kid, kid?
Wrap it in a fine philosophy
Who you tryin' to kid, kid?
But your bottom line stills says, "Me me me"

"Bad Rap (Who You Tryin' to Kid, Kid" by Steve Taylor

[seer]

Got to love it!

https://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/...903588/?type=1

[mossrose]

I see there are all kinds of states starting investigations into PP because of these videos. One I heard on the radio this morning (sorry, didn't catch where she was from) stated that PP was definitely into illegal activities.

[thewriteranon]

I was at a rally today. According to the host, there are at least ten more videos that are going to come out. He thinks it's eleven, but definitely at least ten.

[Irate Canadian]

And while "potential human life" is valuable and may not be terminated casually, it does not have as much value as a life in existence, namely the mother.

I understand a abortion if the mother in terms of rape and incest, but what about when it is done for convenience?

[Irate Canadian]

That was exactly my point.

If "baby" has many meanings, not all of which are relevant, why do you insist on using it when there are narrower terms available?

Roy

Because the term baby infers personhood onto the fetus.

[Papa Zoom]

Because the term baby infers personhood onto the fetus.

Is this a baby or a fetus?

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[Irate Canadian]

Is this a baby or a fetus?

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I would say it's a baby, however, the pro-choicers here would disagree.

[Papa Zoom]

I would say it's a baby, however, the pro-choicers here would disagree.

This baby is 24 weeks old. So he/she should still be inside of mom. If there, he/she is a fetus. That makes no sense to me. We all know what's growing inside a mother womb. It's her baby. That's how everyone defines it. The other terms used simply designate a particular point of development. When a woman has a miscarriage, she talks about losing the baby. I have never once heard a woman talk about her zygote or her fetus. It's always about a baby.

The truth is, abortion rights advocates use whatever tactics will work to desensitize the public about abortion. So according to them it can't be a baby and it can't be a person. There are still some here that argue the developing baby isn't a human being!

Remember back when we were all told it was just a blob of cells? I know women who are told this today. Women are not given the full story about what it is they are aborting.

People can argue all day long on what to call the unborn. Without any doubt, a new and unique human being comes into existence at the moment of conception. This is a fact of science. Period. It seems to me that fact alone should be enough to know that it's immoral to kill the unborn.