The obvious has been officially confirmed ...

[oxmixmudd]

That you consider the plain facts to be a delusion shows just how disconnected from reality you really are.

That you consider your delusions the plain facts is beyond simple disconnection from reality.

[Mountain Man]

That you consider your delusions the plain facts is beyond simple disconnection from reality.

Okay, so what evidence is there that Trump committed a crime? And I mean real evidence that would stand up in court and not your speculation about motives and intent that you mistake for evidence.

[lilpixieofterror]

And you have the right to your opinion

So do you, but not to your own facts. You have this tendency to insert your opinions into the facts and try to present them as all fact, when they are not.

[oxmixmudd]

So do you, but not to your own facts. You have this tendency to insert your opinions into the facts and try to present them as all fact, when they are not.

Correct, there is no such thing as 'my own facts' or 'alternate facts'. (remembering that this particular Trumpian disinformational mantra originated with Kellyanne Conway during the inauguration crowd size fiasco). There are THE facts. and there is fiction, delusion, disinformation etc.

I stick to THE actual facts Pix. You can feel free to stick with the conspiracy sites and roll with Trump's fake news mantras so as to isolate yourself from the actual facts - I can't control that -but it carries with it significant cost to you and ultimately to the nation.

[Cow Poke]

Correct, there is no such thing as 'my own facts' or 'alternate facts'. (remembering that this particular Trumpian disinformational mantra originated with Kellyanne Conway during the inauguration crowd size fiasco). There are THE facts. and there is fiction, delusion, disinformation etc.

I stick to THE actual facts Pix. You can feel free to stick with the conspiracy sites and roll with Trump's fake news mantras so as to isolate yourself from the actual facts - I can't control that -but it carries with it significant cost to you and ultimately to the nation.

There is, however, the propensity we have, because of our own biases, to select WHICH facts we embrace - and I think a lot of that happens here.

[oxmixmudd]

Okay, so what evidence is there that Trump committed a crime? And I mean real evidence that would stand up in court and not your speculation about motives and intent that you mistake for evidence.

Given the 1000+ signatures from former prosecutors referencing the evidence presented in the Mueller report, you could start there.

https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statem...s-8ab7691c2aa1


Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

Correct, there is no such thing as 'my own facts' or 'alternate facts'. (remembering that this particular Trumpian disinformational mantra originated with Kellyanne Conway during the inauguration crowd size fiasco). There are THE facts. and there is fiction, delusion, disinformation etc.

I stick to THE actual facts Pix. You can feel free to stick with the conspiracy sites and roll with Trump's fake news mantras so as to isolate yourself from the actual facts - I can't control that -but it carries with it significant cost to you and ultimately to the nation.

[oxmixmudd]

There is, however, the propensity we have, because of our own biases, to select WHICH facts we embrace - and I think a lot of that happens here.

I agree that is a lot of what happens here. And without declaring myself somehow immune(which I know I am not), I can say with absolute certainty that the extent to which it happens when attempting to defend or support Donald Trump exceeds all others by an order of magnitude (at least).

[oxmixmudd]

That is your opinion - and until you offer objective evidence that show it to be more than just your opinion - that is ALL it is.

Again pix, you can't just rant if you want to make an actual point. You need evidence that is factual and which logically supports your opinion.



Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

Given the 1000+ signatures from former prosecutors referencing the evidence presented in the Mueller report, you could start there.

https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statem...s-8ab7691c2aa1


Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

That is your opinion - and until you offer objective evidence that show it to be more than just your opinion - that is ALL it is.

Again pix, you can't just rant if you want to make an actual point. You need evidence that is factual and which logically supports your opinion.



Jim

[oxmixmudd]

Who cares? Some of these guys left government work when my parents where in grade school. They are not involved in the case and their opinions mean no more than yours or mine

Of course the opinion of former federal prosecutors on the legal veracity of a set of evidence carries far more weight than mine or most people in the USA. They didn't obtain those offices because they had a math or comp-sci degree and worked in industry. They got there because they had mastered their capabilities and understanding in the field of Law. And while a few such people might be game for placing their reputations on the line for a cheap stunt, most would not be. And unless you at a bare minimum have a law degree and have practiced law, what you just said above would be a clear indication you don't know enough to know how unqualified you are to make such a statement.

[oxmixmudd]

You have railed against me with irrational diatribes more times than I can count. But the number of times you've actually presented evidence is so small by comparison I can only count 3 or 4 from memory.

"The fact Congress didn't try to impeach him" ... and what exactly are they doing now? The question of impeachment has been out there quite some time now, and was in fact suggested by Mueller in the report itself.

Impeachment - given the rift in our country right now - is an truly extraordinary step not to be taken lightly. Nixon resigned rather than put the country through it. And we have had nutcases on this very site suggest civil war might be a possible outcome. So you should not place a great deal of weight on how long it has taken to get to this point when trying to claim Trump has not committed impeachable offences. He has committed many. But to actually impeach him and remove him is no trivial matter.

Jim

[lilpixieofterror]

Of course the opinion of former federal prosecutors on the legal veracity of a set of evidence carries far more weight than mine or most people in the USA. They didn't obtain those offices because they had a math or comp-sci degree and worked in industry. They got there because they had mastered their capabilities and understanding in the field of Law. And while a few such people might be game for placing their reputations on the line for a cheap stunt, most would not be. And unless you at a bare minimum have a law degree and have practiced law, what you just said above would be a clear indication you don't know what you don't know.

[lilpixieofterror]

You have railed against me with irrational diatribes more times than I can count. But the number of times you've actually presented evidence is so small by comparison I can only count 3 or 4 from memory.

"The fact Congress didn't try to impeach him" ... and what exactly are they doing now? The question of impeachment has been out there quite some time now, and was in fact suggested by Mueller in the report itself.

Impeachment - given the rift in our country right now - is an truly extraordinary step not to be taken lightly. Nixon resigned rather than put the country through it. And we have had nutcases on this very site suggest civil war might be a possible outcome. So you should not place a great deal of weight on how long it has taken to get to this point when trying to claim Trump has not committed impeachable offences. He has committed many. But to actually impeach him and remove him is no trivial matter.

Jim