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Trump suggests civil war should he be Impeached.
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYes there was rogue. If you were 15 and had never done anything but menial jobs you could be excused. But anyone that has ever worked in any sort of job where they had to interface with management or especially upper level management knows exactly what trump was doing. Again, your pretense of innocence or ignorance wears extremely thin here. You know better.
Jim
Of course there can be different opinions on how serious it is but to be unwilling or unable to see it is quite a stretch to say the least.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI'm fascinated by the implication that dogs hear in cursive.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Charles View PostExactly. I wonder why anyone would make such a statement that Rogue made with so little concern for context.
Of course there can be different opinions on how serious it is but to be unwilling or unable to see it is quite a stretch to say the least.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostInventing it out of a desire for it to be there is where the stretching is taking place.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt is taking place when you go for a one sided interpretation in which you need to ignore context.
The idea that this is just some invention shows us how much your own intepretation is based on desire.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThere is indeed a side here which is ignoring context. Bill's not on it.
I don't see too much concern for context here but it seems you do...
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUnproven assertion coupled with attempted mind-reading. Nice.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt is taking place when you go for a one sided interpretation in which you need to ignore context. The idea that this is just some invention shows us how much your own intepretation is based on desire.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostMilitary aid was not even brought up in the conversation. That's the context you wish was there. It isn't. It's like Stretch Armstrong with you lot....Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Charles View PostHere is what he said in the post I answered: "Trump did no such thing. Innuendo and anti-Trump hatred just ain't gonna cut it."
I don't see too much concern for context here but it seems you do...
See above.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostMilitary aid was not even brought up in the conversation. That's the context you wish was there. It isn't. It's like Stretch Armstrong with you lot....
Now turning to the content of the conversation you claim there is no talk of military aid. President Zelenskyy said:
It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.
And right after that Trump says:
I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it.
So not only did you confuse content with context. You also simply missed what the actual content was.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm looking at the broader context of what Trump said and what he is alleged to have been saying, like Bill is doing.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYep, appears to be an attempt to read my mind, too. I thought you didn't like people attacking others and engaging in mindreading, but that's all I'm seeing in the posts to which I'm responding here.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt's a bit funny that I talk about the context of the conversation and then you talk about what was said in the conversation. Then you go on to conclude that if something was not mentioned in the conversation it was not part of the context. You might want to study the meaning of the word context.
Now turning to the content of the conversation you claim there is no talk of military aid. President Zelenskyy said:
Empasis mine.
So not only did you confuse content with context. You also simply missed what the actual content was.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThis was referring to PRIOR support, not future support. CONTEXT, Chuck...
It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.
So not only are you confusing the concepts of content and context, you are also starting to claim that when someone talks about what IS or the "next steps" it refers to what was prior. I have no idea why anyone would make statements that are so easily proven to be wrong.
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