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  • I have to admit I am continually amazed by the long and storied history of the relationship between Christianity and sex. It seems to be such a continual theme.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Isn't child abuse then what you are accusing the schools of.
      Never said that at all. I just said parents have the right to teach their children their own sexual ethics.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
        I have to admit I am continually amazed by the long and storied history of the relationship between Christianity and sex. It seems to be such a continual theme.
        And it is going to go on as long as human beings exist. The Christian view on this is (in most cases) a complete contradiction of what is natural and it sets indivuals in a fundamental conflict between what they believe religiously and what their body tells them in a not very sophisticated but rather easily understandable language.

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Schools teaching sex ed doesn't stop parents from instilling their values in their children. Usually that should take place long before kids are in sex ed class so you should have nothing to fear from education.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
            I have to admit I am continually amazed by the long and storied history of the relationship between Christianity and sex. It seems to be such a continual theme.
            Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 04-09-2018, 03:57 PM.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by Charles View Post
              And it is going to go on as long as human beings exist. The Christian view on this is (in most cases) a complete contradiction of what is natural and it sets indivuals in a fundamental conflict between what they believe religiously and what their body tells them in a not very sophisticated but rather easily understandable language.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • And amazing how many people had their life damaged by not being allowed to have sex and not being respected because they are homosexuals and afraid of what their parents or the church might say.

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                • It's not clear to me what that has to do with my observation...
                  The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                  I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                  • Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Bingo, and that is why I don't want people like you ANYWHERE near my kids!
                    How am I wrong?

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                    • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                      How am I wrong?
                      Bondage, and how to do it right, is not a subject that we should be raising with kids. And the fact that you don't know that only proves how morally stunted you actually are.
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • Originally posted by seer View Post
                        Bondage, and how to do it right, is not a subject that we should be raising with kids. And the fact that you don't know that only proves how morally stunted you actually are.
                        I agree that bondage is not a subject we should be raising with children. However, lessons like seeking active consent, communicating with your partner, and the signs of an abusive relationship, are all very important and the purpose of the talk that flyer you linked to was advertising. 50 Shades was just a launching point.

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                        • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                          I agree that bondage is not a subject we should be raising with children.
                          Good let's leave it there...
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                            I agree that bondage is not a subject we should be raising with children. However, lessons like seeking active consent, communicating with your partner, and the signs of an abusive relationship, are all very important and the purpose of the talk that flyer you linked to was advertising. 50 Shades was just a launching point.
                            Yup, "here are the things that are wrong with this thing in pop culture" seems like a message the conservatives here ought to be embracing, not attacking.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              same with teaching them about sex thanks for making my point.
                              No, it isn't the same thing, sex ed isn't an indoctrination. I doubt you actually even know what is taught in sex ed.

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                No, it isn't the same thing, sex ed isn't an indoctrination. I doubt you actually even know what is taught in sex ed.
                                It's projection: He's imagining what he would teach in sex ed, namely indoctrination of moral teachings rather than facts, and projecting it on to the school system.

                                It's funny that the conservatives are afraid that if the school says anything to their kids on the subject, then they think that no amount of parental teachings and correction and indoctrinating of moral ideas will be able to dislodge whatever it is they're afraid of the school saying. It's apparently not enough in their minds to be able to lecture their kids for hours each night if they want to on the true morals/immoralities of sex, they require the school to say nothing at all to be sure that their own indoctrination of their kids will stick.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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