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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt seems like some are deliberately misusing the law as a club to silence any opposition -- even when that opposition IS already silent.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd yet Josephus writes of where his body was then entombed.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostWhy?
I fail to see any connection between a literary figure in a Jewish apocalyptic text and an established historical individual.
What next? A "critique" of Jean Valjean perhaps?P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Does he? Where? In book XI of Antiquities he writes of Alexander allegedly being shown the Book of Daniel but makes no mention of a tomb.
which appears to cite Noegel, Scott B.; Wheeler, Brannon M. (2002). Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism but don't bother saying where in Josephus this is mentioned.
Without a specific citation I'm willing to withdraw the statement until a quote can be found.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
The martyrdom of Hypatia is a myth.
Originally posted by Diogenes View PostIf you wish to deny the historicity of Daniel, surely you similarly question the works of say Plutarch.
Originally posted by Diogenes View PostContemporaneous accounts in the ancient world are exceedingly rare.
Originally posted by Diogenes View PostBut again, the historicity of Daniel is immaterial to his relevance.
Was Jonah really swallowed by a great fish? Or was the character merely a figure in an allegory intended to inculcate tolerance? In the final verses of the last chapter we are shown that Yahweh's magnanimity extends even to the residents of Nineveh and their animals.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSeveral sources, including our good buddies at Wikipedia say
which appears to cite Noegel, Scott B.; Wheeler, Brannon M. (2002). Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism but don't bother saying where in Josephus this is mentioned.
Without a specific citation I'm willing to withdraw the statement until a quote can be found.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd yet Josephus writes of where his body was then entombed.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
Oh dear it looks like we got caught in HAs attempt at hijacking the thread again.
Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 12-28-2022, 12:39 PM."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostIf you apply the word in its original Greek then in her life she bore witness to her Neoplatonist beliefs.
Her murder is another issue.
It is not "his relevance" but the relevance of that particular work within Judaism [and later in Christianity] as it has come down to us.
Was Jonah really swallowed by a great fish? Or was the character merely a figure in an allegory intended to inculcate tolerance? In the final verses of the last chapter we are shown that Yahweh's magnanimity extends even to the residents of Nineveh and their animals.P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Assuming a deity exists, Jonah's story is not incredulous. Again, the historicity is immaterial to the derived orthopraxis or the willingness of Yahweh to have mercy on even those hated as much as the residents of Nineveh. The greater lesson is learned regarding Jonah's unwillingness to forgive the Ninevites and his desire to see their destruction despite God's willingness to have mercy, not only on the Ninevites, but Jonah as well.
Of course, the historicity of Daniel was merely a derailment, perhaps to distance away from silent prayer being considered protesting and thus criminalising thought.P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Writes the lady who wanted citations on the historicity of the figure of Daniel.
My suggestion to the others in this thread is to ignore HA's arguments about history and get back to the political ,social and theological ramifications of enactingthought controlhate crime laws such as the one in the op.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View PostI assume this renew questions regarding my agnosticism but why would a Christian say that the historicity of Biblical accounts is "immaterial".
Though it did, in fact happen, it's actually immaterial, because she stubbornly defended a pervert exposing himself to small children, whether it was a hypothetical or actual account.
And, I state again - it actually happened.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSeveral sources, including our good buddies at Wikipedia say
which appears to cite Noegel, Scott B.; Wheeler, Brannon M. (2002). Historical Dictionary of Prophets in Islam and Judaism but don't bother saying where in Josephus this is mentioned.
Without a specific citation I'm willing to withdraw the statement until a quote can be found.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Thought being criminalised within a certain area is still criminalising thought.
......like approaching within a set distance of a venue the likes of which you have previously been a nuisance at.
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