UK woman arrested for silently praying across from abortion clinic

[Diogenes]

Wrong! Paul definitely wrote that you should obey the laws of the lands that you reside in. I'm a pagan and even I know that.

Ah yes, because Daniel never prayed to God without concern for the law.

[rogue06]

The police officer requested she voluntarily accompany them to the police station. She refused. And so she was arrested.

https://www.jdspicer.co.uk/site/our-...ice-interview/

The first thing to note is that just because it is called a ‘voluntary’ interview, doesn’t mean you should simply refuse to attend. Although you can say no, this could result in the police deciding to arrest you so they can carry out a standard police interview instead.

However, this seems very much to the proverbial storm in a thimble and as I noted in a previous reply I suspect the case will be dismissed and she will receive a caution.

That means you were being taken into custody voluntarily or not. For silently praying.

For being so obnoxious about it that the cop had to ask if she was praying.

After all, it's typical for cops when seeing someone breaking the law to first stop and ask the perpetrators if they're breaking the law. At least in whatever obscure corner of the Twilight Zone some posters apparently inhabit.

Cue the music

[rogue06]

Your location description is a constant demonstration of your issues with using the English vocabulary. It's quite reminiscent of PZ Myers' Free Thought Blogs.

It's funny how someone who just could not grasp that the phrase "somewhere in between" is not the same as "exactly in the middle" like she repeatedly kept insisting now seeks to lecture on qualifiers.

Moreover, she would not have been confused and made demonstrably inaccurate assertions or speculations if she had bothered to read the article she linked to, which made it perfectly clear

"The clip shows the woman silently standing on a curb across from an abortion clinic"

[Cow Poke]

Wrong! Paul definitely wrote that you should obey the laws of the lands that you reside in. I'm a pagan and even I know that.
But if you did happen to get such an Order slapped on you,. and if you did happen to continue to bust it, then you would be getting in to a lot of trouble.

Perhaps you were unaware of the little incident where they were commanded to stop preaching, and they rebelled?

Scripture Verse: Acts 4

18 So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John answered them, Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20 for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.”

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Let's try another version of that...

Scripture Verse: Acts 4

18 So they called them and charged them not to pray at all - even in their own heads. 19 But Peter and John answered them, Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20 for we cannot but pray for the things about which we are concerned.”

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That was easy!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Ah yes, because Daniel never prayed to God without concern for the law.

Daniel is not considered to be a historical figure.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

That means you were being taken into custody voluntarily or not. For silently praying.

We do not know that. She was asked various questions including whether she was praying. However, she was loitering in an area in which she was not supposed to be.

Had she simply acknowledged the officers when they approached her and agreed to move away from that area the entire [later recorded] episode would possibly never have developed.

For being so obnoxious about it that the cop had to ask if she was praying.

We do not know why that officer asked that particular question.

As far as I am aware religious freedom is still permitted in England. However, she was loitering where she should not have been and from the officer's comments that was not the first occasion that she had been seen in that area. That fact might have been what prompted the police officer to ask her to voluntarily accompany him and his colleague to the police station for an interview.

However, she refused and that led to her being arrested.

It strikes me that the entire thing was a publicity stunt given that someone was filming the incident. Who were they and what motive[s] did they had for doing so?

[RumTumTugger]

Daniel is not considered to be a historical figure.

By who, HA? Give me citations

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

That is your opinion HA

It is not just my opinion RTT.

[Diogenes]

Daniel is not considered to be a historical figure.

Daniel is still a prominent figure in Judaism and Christianity and symbol of defiance to earthly powers and devotion to God. Daniel being a historical figure or not is immaterial to his relevance. If you wish to critique the historicity of a figure, I would suggest starting with Hypatia of Alexandria.

[RumTumTugger]

It is not just my opinion RTT.

You must have replied while I was editing I edited it to ask who you are getting this from and I want citations. I am also interested in your answer to Diogenes question as well as your prof that Julius Caesar and the other Caesars are historical figures.

[NorrinRadd]

Daniel is not considered to be a historical figure.

By those Christians and Jews recognize as hysterical figures.

[Diogenes]

By those Christians and Jews recognize as hysterical figures.

[Cow Poke]

...I would suggest starting with Hypatia of Alexandria.

[eider]

So you admit that prayer inside the limit was the reason for the arrest. Thank you for conceding the UK has thought crimes. She wasn't even praying out loud but rather in her head. You have admitting praying inside her head inside the limit was the cause pic arrest.

You cannot be that slow, Diogenes! The woman could be dancing on the pavement 'Just outside the limits set', but if inside the limits set, that same woman could be arrested, while dancing.
This does not admit that the reason for her arrest would be dancing.

[eider]

From GOV.UK:

British subject

Until 1949, nearly everyone with a close connection to the United Kingdom was called a ‘British subject’.

All citizens of Commonwealth countries were collectively referred to as ‘British subjects’ until January 1983. However, this was not an official status for most of them.

Since 1983, very few people have qualified as British subjects.

So apparently things have changed

Indeed......... I've been a British Citizen since birth. But some folks in Commonwealth Countries are still subjects.