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My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
What about an actor in a play dressing like a woman? They used to do it routinely in Shakespeare's time. And do you notice we seem to get more upset with men dressing like women than the other way around? Nobody minds if a woman wears overalls or a pant suit. Except maybe some KJV only type churches. My mom's old baptist church had a rule that women could only come to church wearing dresses. No pants allowed.
To your question about an actor, I suppose the real question is, does God take intent into account? If an actor is only playing a role in a play and isn't going about trying to convince greater society that he's a woman, will God give him a pass? I don't know.Last edited by Mountain Man; 03-30-2022, 06:21 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Both sexes wore "dresses" in bible times. I remember going to an Easter pageant at my church with a friend and her young daughter a while back. The little girl looked up at me and said, "Why is Jesus wearing a dress?"
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
No, that is not what I am alleging.
Perhaps you should change your pseudonym to Humpty Dumpty."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
You have been trying to allege that two words and their root verb mean different things in two different verses.
Perhaps you should change your pseudonym to Humpty Dumpty.
Perhaps you should change your pseudonym to moron.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
No, that is not what I am alleging.
Perhaps you should change your pseudonym to moron."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by moron View Post
It is precisely what you have been alleging. Nice pejorative there MM - very Christian of you.
"This is an abomination to God" vs "This shall be an abomination to you", which is to say it is a difference between moral law and ceremonial law.
If you still don't understand then I suggest you go slam your head in a door a few hundred times and see if you can't knock some sense into yourself. It certainly couldn't make you any dumber.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
You have been trying to allege that two words and their root verb mean different things in two different verses.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
No, it is not what I have been alleging. The word means the same thing in both instances. The difference is in who the thing is considered an abomination to.
You shall not eat any abhorrent thing/Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing
In your "considered opinion" what other supernatural entity is this entity referencing concerning what is deemed to be abominable or abhorrent?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
We made some progress I think. But if you think that is my motivation, you've not been reading my posts for the last decade or more ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Obviously there's more to it than just an article of clothing. As you noted, men and women at the time of the Old Testament both wore robes. It's more about dressing in a way so one appears to be the opposite gender, which involves more than just a woman putting on a pair of pants.
To your question about an actor, I suppose the real question is, does God take intent into account? If an actor is only playing a role in a play and isn't going about trying to convince greater society that he's a woman, will God give him a pass? I don't know.
All I am saying is that the OT Law is more complicated than it is presented. Motivations are not mentioned in the law.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
So it's about trying to fool other people? What about someone who only dresses up like a man or woman in their own home and tells nobody about it? Is that OK then? What about someone who is obviously not fooling anyone dressing like the opposite sex? Like say if Arnold Schwarzenegger put on a skirt and walked around town? He would still obviously be a man and not fooling anyone.
All I am saying is that the OT Law is more complicated than it is presented. Motivations are not mentioned in the law.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
I was just postulating a motive. I do know you are not shy in telling anyyone on tweb when you think they are sinning or not acting like a Christian, but you seem to be reluctant to point out that LBGT behavior is a sin because it might be perceived as "condemnation" and you want to "wait for God to reveal it to them" somehow. To me that sounds like you are reluctant to hurt their feelings with the truth.
So talking about a person being 'abhorrent to God' or 'an abomination', this is the language used to rally mobs to hunt the things or people down and destroy them. And in the old testament, it is indeed a death sentence.
And it is not as if there are no conservative Christian groups or people that have done such things. And regardless of how much we know 'that is not us' , the average person we come in contact with does not know that until they get to know us more closely.
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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