Originally posted by rogue06
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
Civics 101 Guidelines
Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less
World War Three?
Collapse
X
-
Originally posted by seer View PostIt looks like this Ukraine thing is going to kick off. Now you may say that it won't turn into a World war, but these things often take on a life of their own - especially if American citizens are killed in the initial attack, and the fact that we have a befuddled and senile leader... As Obama said - never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up...
To quote Toranaga: "It will be war this year whether I say 'yes' or 'no'""For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
Comment
-
Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
It's the "secretly selling weapons on the black market" that's the problem.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
-
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSelling off old obsolete weapons makes sense. There are plenty of Third World governments that would be eager to scoop them up.
Comment
-
Originally posted by seanD View Post
If multi billions of dollars of state of the art US DoD weapons and equipment fell so easily into the hands of the Taliban in Afghanistan the day we left, what makes anyone thing the same won't happen (or is happening) in Ukraine?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
-
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe government needs that state of the art stuff for their own survival but I wouldn't be very shocked if some does get sold to line this or that person's pockets.
Comment
-
Originally posted by seanD View Post
Of course. As did the Afghan government prior to the fall. No one is arguing there aren't excuses.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
- 1 like
Comment
-
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOne was a civil war, the other an invasion.
Comment
-
Originally posted by seanD View Post
One was an invasion (Russia), and the other was a collapse of a government caused by an invasion (US). Only I doubt there was much of a civil war in the aftermath. The fact Taliban so easily took over the government in just one day suggests to me that either US was outright supporting Taliban (keep the enemy threat present to use an excuse to stay for 2 decades and bilk tax payers of 8 trillion dollars and God knows what else they were doing there), or that they did nothing to quell Taliban and Taliban was just waiting in the wings until US forces pulled out. But nothing suggests to me there was any civil war in Afghanistan.
And from what I can see, the Taliban hasn't been causing terrorist strikes anywhere since they took over. Just because they're nasty shouldn't make them an eternal US enemy.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ronson View Post
For one thing, Pakistan was supporting the Taliban, giving them safe haven. When a US "ally" is supporting a US foe, then that makes for a sticky matter.
And from what I can see, the Taliban hasn't been causing terrorist strikes anywhere since they took over. Just because they're nasty shouldn't make them an eternal US enemy.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ronson View Post
For one thing, Pakistan was supporting the Taliban, giving them safe haven. When a US "ally" is supporting a US foe, then that makes for a sticky matter.
And from what I can see, the Taliban hasn't been causing terrorist strikes anywhere since they took over. Just because they're nasty shouldn't make them an eternal US enemy."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ronson View Post
And from what I can see, the Taliban hasn't been causing terrorist strikes anywhere since they took over. Just because they're nasty shouldn't make them an eternal US enemy.
- 1 like
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I do not think we should forget US military support in the mid 1980s for those in Afghanistan fighting the USSR.
Comment
-
Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
I believe that may be because their not in a position to at the moment. They are too busy shoring up the homeland, so to speak.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I just don't they're interested. The Taliban is focused on tormenting the local population, not exporting their torment to the infidels. That was Al Qaida.
Terrorizing the public to prevent the inevitable civil unrest is all they got. They were popular in the countryside where the US did a poor job of building infrastructure. That's likely going to change as the rural folks start figuring out that as bad as US efforts were the Taliban's are going to be non-existent."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
My Personal Blog
My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)
Quill Sword
Comment
Related Threads
Collapse
Topics | Statistics | Last Post | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Started by Cow Poke, Yesterday, 01:19 PM
|
9 responses
74 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seanD
Yesterday, 11:58 PM
|
||
Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, Yesterday, 12:23 PM
|
40 responses
141 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by Cow Poke
Today, 08:22 AM
|
||
Started by Cow Poke, Yesterday, 11:46 AM
|
16 responses
122 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by Stoic
Yesterday, 04:44 PM
|
||
Started by seer, Yesterday, 04:37 AM
|
23 responses
109 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seanD
Yesterday, 02:49 PM
|
||
Started by seanD, 05-02-2024, 04:10 AM
|
27 responses
158 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seanD
Yesterday, 01:37 PM
|
Comment