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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
You have even less of a standing to complain about yesterday's riot, Charles. Your hypocrisy puts Ox's to shame.
Let's see if you can look at the content this time. Prediction: you will not be up to the task. Prove me wrong
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Originally posted by Charles View Post
Your personal attack does nothing to answer my post. Here it is again for your convenience: https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...10#post1222444
Let's see if you can look at the content this time. Prediction: you will not be up to the task. Prove me wrong
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Originally posted by Charles View Post
I am not a liberal and have not excused any such actions so stop lying even though it might be tempting given the trouble you are in. You should have learned by now where that path will lead both you and others.
Did you whine to your mommy or something, and she told you that she would take care of it as she wiped your tears away and gave you a cookie?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
There is nothing to answer - just your typical Charles finger pointing. And as you have no leg to stand on here, I choose to ignore your whining. I have condemned the violence yesterday just like I have condemned it for the last 4 years, no matter who does it. Can you show me where you have done the same?
Interesting once again. And you do realize that the lies, stupidity, constant spreading of falsehoods that you and other "Christians" have excused time and time again was part of what lead to what happened yesterday and to the big division in your country? Their idea that they were justified in doing what they did did not come out of nowhere, did it?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI understand she was attempting to enter another part of the building and was shot by a police officer.
Certainly no better and Republicans can no longer claim any higher moral ground.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDuring the months of constant rioting the left had this nasty habit of blocking the exits of buildings they set on fire in an attempt to burn those inside alive.
There were also videos of that.
And a month later
And that was just in Portland.
Interestingly, you had to go well down into the story to read about the blocking of the exits in an attempt to burn those inside alive in the last two stories.
The issue here is that Trump supporters, filled with lies about a "stolen election", and egged on by Trump himself, charged over to the Capitol at his direction, while Electoral College votes were being counted in a joint session. These people broke into the Capitol, vandalized the building, and had violent confrontations with police. This mob committed an act of terrorism that should be prosecuted.
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Originally posted by casaba View PostThanks CD for that list. I cannot say I read all the linked articles, but I read more than one (yes, two) and it did get me thinking about both the reactions here in this thread and my own reaction to yesterday's events.
I would give you the point that many journalists have justified the criminal acts, in particular property damage, carried out by a minority of protesters in response to the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, among others.
I think that you are right that these same journalists are not likely to be presenting justification for the the property damage carried out by a minority of protesters in yesterday's protest.
What I think is missing in your argument is the fact that not all justifications are equal. I suggest that you read one or more of your linked articles (The Nation article would be my first pick) and pay attention to the justifications which are presented. Then consider what justifications there were for yesterday's events.
On one side you have a history of "too many innocent people murdered, too many communities over-policed and otherwise neglected" and on the other you have a verified pathological liar claiming without proof that his clear loss in the last election was in fact a landslide victory for him. I see a difference there.
It's time and time again that it was justified. Political violence happens, and there's a slew of articles telling us why that violence was justified. There was tons of people saying that it wasn't that bad, that people were right to do it, that the circumstances mandated it.
Over and over and over.
The end result is that violent behavior was normalized. It became seen as an acceptable way to air your grievances. It didn't matter why someone would justify it, it mattered that they would. It was OK to punch a Nazi because they are bad people. Then as the definition of Nazi loosened, it became OK to be violent against them. It was OK to violently counter-protest a peaceful protest because the protesters were bad people. It was ok to burn buildings because CNN would call it peacful. It was OK to throw firebombs because the VP-candidate would get people to pay your bail and defense. It was ok to loot and riot because people would tell you that it was RIGHT this time.
Overall it builds up to "it's OK to be violent for political reasons" because over and over again, people came up with justifications as to why each "this time" was justified, and defensible. It became an acceptable tactic. You can't do that over and over and the pretend that when someone uses the tactic in a way you didn't forsee that your hands are clean.
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Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
If you really want to see • Edited by a Moderator • is a video showing when the woman was shot. If you watch it it makes sense why only one person was shot and not more. NSFW / NSFL
Mods please edit this post if linking this isn't allowed.
Btw, I'm going to edit the link for now so it can be discussed. It is fairly graphic
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Charles View Post
Well, well, well. You "condemn" it while claiming it was a consequence of "four years of violence and terrorism". Interesting opinion.
With regard to the "every conservative" I notice how many of the usual suspects are absent from this thread. Looking forward to seeing conservatives in large numbers in here provide a condemnation that does not involve "whataboutism" and the like.
"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Postlooks more to me like she wastrying to get away from the crush of bodies as the police mere feet behind were pushing people up onto that landing. The shooter is lucky he didnt hit any of the cops, that could have ended even worse.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Actually it was a counter point to your flippant "They didn't do X" comment. They did do X, just at the local government.
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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