If you were smart enough and self-aware enough to understand the problems with your posting, you wouldn't post like you do. Since you're evidently not that smart, nor yet that intellectually honest, it would be a waste of time explaining your dumbness to you.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostYou still don't get it. This earth and the heavens will be destroyed by God at the end of time and He will create a new heaven and a new earth. Of course, it's scriptural, which goes right over your head, because, as I said, you are blind by your sin and lack of faith.
1 Peter 3
Revelation 21
Etc.
I am not worried about this earth. It's only temporary anyway. I look forward to the new creation, of which I am already part.
So, carry on in your ignorance of truth and worry about your life here. You think it's all there is. You are wrong.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI'm not sure this is really the correct way to think about things. Theologians like N.T. Wright point out that salvation does not simply mean going to heaven, but being raised to life in God's new heaven and earth. While we live in this earth in its present state we should be good stewards of it, because we will continue to be called as stewards with the new heaven and earth. I think Wright makes a good point when he states,
I agree we are to be good stewards of the earth while we are here. But the hypocrisy of AGW is rampant and the fundys on that side of the fence are totally rabid about their religion.
I choose to rely on scripture rather than what men have written, and trust that God will be true to His word. He will destroy this earth and the heavens and recreate them as His word proclaims.
Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.
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When I was a kid we didn't see bald eagles around mid-Michigan because the DDT destroyed their eggs.
We also didn't have wild turkeys and so forth - but all of that has made a tremendous comeback.
Now I've farmers from my hometown showing me photos of dozens of bald eagles.
We can thank the environmental wackos for that.
I flat out don't trust people who see our world as disposable.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI've seen that argument many times from Christians.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostWhen I was a kid we didn't see bald eagles around mid-Michigan because the DDT destroyed their eggs.
We also didn't have wild turkeys and so forth - but all of that has made a tremendous comeback.
Now I've farmers from my hometown showing me photos of dozens of bald eagles.
We can thank the environmental wackos for that.
I flat out don't trust people who see our world as disposable.
In any case, regardless of what role DDT played or did not play, human activity still seems to have been mostly responsible: "oil; lead; mercury; stress from noise, fear, excitement or disease; age; bird size (larger birds produce thicker shells); dehydration; temperature; decreased light; human and predator intrusion; restraint and nutrient deficiencies."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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"Not true Christians"
That depends on what you mean. From my perspective, no one outside of the Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox Church is "true Christians." That's if you define the term in the narrowest sense of those people explicitly having the faith that Christ taught to the apostles, and that the Church Fathers themselves would have considered Christians.
The typical hallmark though between evangelicals and Christian fellowship is whether people agree to the Nicene Creed. In that matter, they don't fall through, as they recognize it as far as I have been able to tell.
I consider them a dangerous Christian cult, run by a whack leader, who is clearly a false prophet drunk with power.
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Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View PostWhen I was a kid we didn't see bald eagles around mid-Michigan because the DDT destroyed their eggs.
We also didn't have wild turkeys and so forth - but all of that has made a tremendous comeback.
Now I've farmers from my hometown showing me photos of dozens of bald eagles.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostIf you were smart enough and self-aware enough to understand the problems with your posting, you wouldn't post like you do. Since you're evidently not that smart, nor yet that intellectually honest, it would be a waste of time explaining your dumbness to you.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostLike I said, blind to the truth. Too bad you won't have plausible deniability when you face Christ as Judge.
Originally posted by mossrose View PostI agree we are to be good stewards of the earth while we are here. But the hypocrisy of AGW is rampant and the fundys on that side of the fence are totally rabid about their religion.
I choose to rely on scripture rather than what men have written, and trust that God will be true to His word.
He will destroy this earth and the heavens and recreate them as His word proclaims.
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Originally posted by TassOne day your deity might get it right.
And you will pray for the rocks to hide you and you WILL bow your knee and proclaim Him Lord, whether you want to or not. And you will be judged by Him for your unbelief.
Good luck.
Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostDee Dee killed the bald eagles?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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