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  • #46
    Originally posted by Obsidian View Post
    Exodus 21:2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
    Allowing and advocating are two different things. Just like with what Jesus said on divorce.

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    • #47
      Okay, well the Bible doesn't really advocate worshiping God then; it just allows it, and then allows you to be condemned when you don't do it. Use whatever term you want for it. It says what it says.

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      • #48
        If you want to discuss the Bible and slavery, please continue in a new thread.

        Many thanks.
        "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

        "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
          And enabling a dysfunctional and hostile system is good?
          No, but choosing a worser option is clearly stupid. Often times you don't have any choices that are "good" in the short-term and you have to choose the lesser evil.

          I once heard God described as a gentlemen - if He isn't wanted, He'll just leave. Is it time for Christians to be gentlepeople and leave?
          God is able to leave as and when He likes...but how do you propose Christians do so?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Paprika View Post
            No, but choosing a worser option is clearly stupid. Often times you don't have any choices that are "good" in the short-term and you have to choose the lesser evil.
            What is your definition of short term? Frankly I view this issue as a long term problem. I am not expecting any improvement for at least 10 years and probably closer to 30 to 50.

            Originally posted by Paprika View Post
            God is able to leave as and when He likes...but how do you propose Christians do so?
            As the OP suggests, by no longer acting as an agent of the government. The next step is probably to stop expecting that the government through laws can create a Christian nation. Since this is a long road, I'm not sure what lies beyond these starting steps.
            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

            "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
              What is your definition of short term? Frankly I view this issue as a long term problem. I am not expecting any improvement for at least 10 years and probably closer to 30 to 50.
              Anything up to at least 50 years.

              As the OP suggests, by no longer acting as an agent of the government.
              What do you mean by that, besides ministers not invoking the powers of the state when marrying a couple, and not being a government employee?

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