Pop preachers and their heretical beliefs

[Cerebrum123]

Enough with the squirrels! Move along, folks.

Get back to exposing heresy, ok?

I started reading Ted Dekker's* books again after getting Kindle Unlimited. I found out he is now a Christian mystic and is teaching some very messed up stuff. He's now selling a book called "The Forgotten Way" which teaches that humans are divine, universalism, and that reality is an illusion. It also pushes the idea that subjective experiences are the only way to truly ever know God or our "true selves".

*Before he got into this stuff he was my favorite Christian author. I still like his older books but this newer stuff is .

[mossrose]

I started reading Ted Dekker's* books again after getting Kindle Unlimited. I found out he is now a Christian mystic and is teaching some very messed up stuff. He's now selling a book called "The Forgotten Way" which teaches that humans are divine, universalism, and that reality is an illusion. It also pushes the idea that subjective experiences are the only way to truly ever know God or our "true selves".

*Before he got into this stuff he was my favorite Christian author. I still like his older books but this newer stuff is .

[Cerebrum123]

Yeah, it's not good. Finding out has been a real gut punch for me. He's a really good writer but he's got some seriously messed up ideas now. After seeing that, it wasn't too surprising to hear that he endorsed The Shack.

[mossrose]

Yeah, it's not good. Finding out has been a real gut punch for me. He's a really good writer but he's got some seriously messed up ideas now. After seeing that, it wasn't too surprising to hear that he endorsed The Shack.

[NorrinRadd]

So this is how the ninja squirrel assassins came about -- this guy speaks them into existence (or at least claims to).

And the guy's last name befits him well.

A great blog post from Sam Storms.

Why are Charismatics so Weird?

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August 21, 2023 | By: Sam Storms


By Sam Storms (www.samstorms.org)
I didn’t ask that question. Justin Peters, well-known cessationist and critic of all things charismatic, did. He actually has a series of programs citing examples of strange and often unbiblical things that certain Pentecostals or charismatics do or say.
Make no mistake. I don’t for one minute endorse the things he cites. The examples he provides are indeed quite weird and bizarre. But the way in which Peters presents his case is itself quite weird, and to put it mildly, profoundly unfair and un-Christian.

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[mossrose]

A great blog post from Sam Storms.

Why are Charismatics so Weird?

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August 21, 2023 | By: Sam Storms


By Sam Storms (www.samstorms.org)
I didn’t ask that question. Justin Peters, well-known cessationist and critic of all things charismatic, did. He actually has a series of programs citing examples of strange and often unbiblical things that certain Pentecostals or charismatics do or say.
Make no mistake. I don’t for one minute endorse the things he cites. The examples he provides are indeed quite weird and bizarre. But the way in which Peters presents his case is itself quite weird, and to put it mildly, profoundly unfair and un-Christian.

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His opinion, and yours. Quite un-Christian of him to be so critical.

[tabibito]

A great blog post from Sam Storms.

Why are Charismatics so Weird?

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August 21, 2023 | By: Sam Storms


By Sam Storms (www.samstorms.org)
I didn’t ask that question. Justin Peters, well-known cessationist and critic of all things charismatic, did. He actually has a series of programs citing examples of strange and often unbiblical things that certain Pentecostals or charismatics do or say.
Make no mistake. I don’t for one minute endorse the things he cites. The examples he provides are indeed quite weird and bizarre. But the way in which Peters presents his case is itself quite weird, and to put it mildly, profoundly unfair and un-Christian.

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5:24
God is no respecter of persons.
Bobby Connor said that he found that in the Bible and he said, “well, if God spoke to Moses face to face, he can speak to me face to face, because God is no respecter of persons, and so we carry this out to its logical conclusion: we must also conclude that Bobby Connor must also be able to part red seas and walk on water and raise the dead

(Peter walked on water and raised the dead)

and yet he’s not doing any of those things, is he.
Well, God is indeed no respecter of persons, and that is indeed in the Bible, but it’s in Acts chapter 10, in the context of Cornelius’ vision, and when Peter hears about this, he responds in the King James, “God is no respecter of persons.”

So far, no argument: except that the statement is shifted from Cornelius and his group’s conversion to Cornelius’ vision. It is a fairly minor error. Now comes a red flag (or at least a yellow one).
As often as not, “what this/that means is” signals that the speaker is about to pull a swiftie.

What that means is – Cornelius’ vision signified that the gospel goes out to all: both to Jew and to Greek and to Gentile.

The promulgation of the gospel is never in view in this pericope. The remainder of Peter’s statement, which specifies what Peter is referring to, Justin Peters elided: “35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him;” a statement will be deemed heretical by almost anyone who subscribes to the “not by works” precept.

Contrary to the view of most Jews, they did not have exclusive rights to the family of God just because they were ethnic Jews. The gospel goes out to everyone … Paul says this in Romans chapter 1 does he not? “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation …” That is what it means that “God is no respecter of persons.”

It is not what Peter’s statement means, not even close but, to quote Jordan Peter’s in a way that he did not intend:

“Let’s not let the Bible get in the way of our theology.”

For the rest, yes: there is good cause for scepticism with regard to the claims made by Bobby Connor – even without his (at least bordering on) disrespectful references to God. Sam Storm's comments, as Norrin Radd cited, are spot on.

[The Melody Maker]

Look who "prophesied" that there would not be war in Israel. When will the man repent.

[mossrose]

Look who "prophesied" that there would not be war in Israel. When will the man repent.

You'd think he'd have seen what was going to happen over the last couple of days, if he's such a good prophet.

[Sparko]

Look who "prophesied" that there would not be war in Israel. When will the man repent.

Yeah but you have to have a war before you can have a peace. He is prophesying the peace that comes AFTER the war! That's the ticket!

[One Bad Pig]

According to the Vatican, transgender people can now be baptized and serve as godparents.

[mossrose]

According to the Vatican, transgender people can now be baptized and serve as godparents.

I heard that the other day.

[mossrose]

How to do church with a Halloween theme...........

[NorrinRadd]

How to do church with a Halloween theme...........

Um, well, in this case Wretched Todd is the one who's not up to speed.

"Wednesday" (Addams) is a popular *current* Netflix program created by the same guys who created Smallville 20+ years ago.

Beyond that, I'm not really on the same page as the Wretched Mr. Friel, as usual. I think the Addams-theme church service is a bit dopey, but I don't agree with the implication that a church service is supposed to be buttoned-down and stodgy and formal. And I don't think Mr. Casual Pastor's broad use of the 1 Cor. citation is any worse than Wretched's narrow and stringent use. I'm also, as usual, more with Luther than with Calvin, since he dragged them into it. I couldn't make myself watch past 11 minutes.

[mossrose]

Um, well, in this case Wretched Todd is the one who's not up to speed.

"Wednesday" (Addams) is a popular *current* Netflix program created by the same guys who created Smallville 20+ years ago.

Beyond that, I'm not really on the same page as the Wretched Mr. Friel, as usual. I think the Addams-theme church service is a bit dopey, but I don't agree with the implication that a church service is supposed to be buttoned-down and stodgy and formal. And I don't think Mr. Casual Pastor's broad use of the 1 Cor. citation is any worse than Wretched's narrow and stringent use. I'm also, as usual, more with Luther than with Calvin, since he dragged them into it. I couldn't make myself watch past 11 minutes.

I'm shocked you disagree with everything we post here.