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"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe money has to come from somewhere, Sam. In the case of McDonalds, or many of the franchises that pay minimum wage based salaries, the franchisee is, in effect, "middle management", and has a tight budget with which to work. Labor is one of the few controllable costs in such a business, so it's either cut the hours of current employees, cut the number of employees, or dig into his/her own pocket. (or some combination of the three)
Where do YOU suppose that money would come from?
Take all you want, we'll print more!
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe money has to come from somewhere, Sam. In the case of McDonalds, or many of the franchises that pay minimum wage based salaries, the franchisee is, in effect, "middle management", and has a tight budget with which to work. Labor is one of the few controllable costs in such a business, so it's either cut the hours of current employees, cut the number of employees, or dig into his/her own pocket. (or some combination of the three)
Where do YOU suppose that money would come from?
>The money has to come from somewhere
>This is somewhere
>The money has to come from here
We've already examined how executive pay has exploded since the minimum wage was, in real dollars, higher than today. I've noted how shareholder returns and stock buybacks have taken a greater percentage than in the past. And it's been noted that increasing wages at the lower income brackets creates higher demand for goods and services. So I would suppose that the money could come from reduced compensation at the top, as well as a dash of that "dynamic scoring" Conservatives are so gung-ho about."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View Post>The money has to come from somewhere
>This is somewhere
>The money has to come from here
We've already examined how executive pay has exploded since the minimum wage was, in real dollars, higher than today. I've noted how shareholder returns and stock buybacks have taken a greater percentage than in the past. And it's been noted that increasing wages at the lower income brackets creates higher demand for goods and services. So I would suppose that the money could come from reduced compensation at the top, as well as a dash of that "dynamic scoring" Conservatives are so gung-ho about.
You really don't live in the real world, Sam.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou were one of the onese arguing that the top executives were making too much profit and it should be taken from them. That is capping their income."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Sam View PostRight. So why then, if minimum wage increases are being taken from top-income profits, do we also have to soak the middle management?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostRight. So why then, if minimum wage increases are being taken from top-income profits, do we also have to soak the middle management?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah, let's see you make that happen.
You really don't live in the real world, Sam."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostDid you (or anyone else, I don't feel like going through the 10 pages or so that have gone up since I last saw this thread) ever explain how you plan to magically distribute management overpay (which is a small fraction of total worker pay) in such a meaningful way that it'll positively impact the workers' salary?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostDid you (or anyone else, I don't feel like going through the 10 pages or so that have gone up since I last saw this thread) ever explain how you plan to magically distribute management overpay (which is a small fraction of total worker pay) in such a meaningful way that it'll positively impact the workers' salary?"I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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I just keep noticing how the liberals here are not volunteering to put up their own money to solve the problem.
For example, if Jordanriver thinks a tip will solve the problem, why doesn't he/she take money from his/her paycheck and tip the employees that he/she supervises to make sure they are making a decent wage?
Of course Sam probably doesn't have a job so I guess he is off the hook.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostActually, this was the real world back when you were growin' up.
And who was it that capped their salaries, Sam?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI just keep noticing how the liberals here are not volunteering to put up their own money to solve the problem.
For example, if Jordanriver thinks a tip will solve the problem, why doesn't he/she take money from his/her paycheck and tip the employees that he/she supervises to make sure they are making a decent wage?
Of course Sam probably doesn't have a job so I guess he is off the hook.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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