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Last edited by Cow Poke; 12-18-2014, 06:48 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostFWIW, it is just the internet. You could ask the same question about me, and I honestly don't know if anyone would/could respond. Doesn't seem like a very useful question in this context to me.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt is just the internet, but you know, it doesn't seem like such an odd request when you look at the broad picture. When a person posts thousands and thousands of posts over the course of very many years on an almost daily basis, you sort of build a mental image of who this person is. The image may be all wrong, but when a professed Christian consistently posts nothing but endless negativity, and seems to delight in the effect his negative behavior has...Its going to make people scratch their heads. Especially when it doesn't match the model of behavior we see while reading the scriptures, or even of Christians we know in our personal lives. Maybe they're hurting physically or emotionally, and they come here to vent all of their anger and frustration at whoever will give them attention. Maybe its something else. I don't know. But it doesn't seem to me to be an odd question to ask of someone who is supposed to be a joint heir in Christ.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDifferent kind of slave, and CERTAINLY not the kind that you claimed children were.
Originally posted by Romans 6:17But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations.
Originally posted by Romans 7:1Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress.
Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWell, yeah. Its right there in the verse that was cited:
Paul is using the familiar concept of slavery for illustrative purposes. Paul uses all sorts of allegories like this. Here's another from the same book where he uses marriage as the allegory rather than slavery.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostWell, yeah. Its right there in the verse that was cited:
Paul is using the familiar concept of slavery for illustrative purposes. Paul uses all sorts of allegories like this. Here's another from the same book where he uses marriage as the allegory rather than slavery.
1 Corinthians 7:4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
So of course he would also use marriage as an allegory, since marriage is another form of human ownership."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostThe fact that you'd even think to wonder says something, in my opinion.
And BTW, I notice Pap used the old 'pearls before swine' defence to resist telling CP about his personal faith walk. This would indicate he considers CP a 'swine', his own brother in the faith. Actually I think he probably considers most people swine regardless of their faith.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostThe fact that you'd even think to wonder says something, in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt is just the internet, but you know, it doesn't seem like such an odd request when you look at the broad picture.
The image may be all wrong, but when a professed Christian consistently posts nothing but endless negativity, and seems to delight in the effect his negative behavior has...Its going to make people scratch their heads.
Maybe they're hurting physically or emotionally, and they come here to vent all of their anger and frustration at whoever will give them attention."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostIf you are actually concerned about how Christ-like you appear, chances are you're doing fine.
And BTW, I notice Pap used the old 'pearls before swine' defence to resist telling CP about his personal faith walk. This would indicate he considers CP a 'swine', his own brother in the faith. Actually I think he probably considers most people swine regardless of their faith.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostGosh we're off topic. I simply asked a hypothetical question about the children of illegal immigrants born in the US. All your positions are clear now. Thank you. Return to your regularly scheduled ranting.
Till next time.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostIndeed, the Terrible Three - Adrift, pancreasman and Cow Poke have made their idiocy sufficiently clear on this occasion (as almost always).
Till next time.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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