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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThey pulled the study down because it was wrong.
For some real data, there is a good article here:
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Here are the two most-relevant graphs:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/e...t®ion=World
Excess Mortality1.JPG
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/e...3®ion=World
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If the study authors themselves are not acknowledging error in the data, I'm calling BS on your claim.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostDo you have a link to the study authors themselves actually saying the study was wrong? Last I heard, they pulled it because they feared that the data, while accurate, would be misused.
If the study authors themselves are not acknowledging error in the data, I'm calling BS on your claim.
Briand was quoted in the article as saying, “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers.” This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19...
Because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of COVID-19, The News-Letter decided to retract this article.
Basically the main point of the article was BS. The author claimed CDC's death numbers aren't above normal this year. The CDC's death numbers are ~300,000 above normal this year. So the author was 100% wrong in her major claim.
This is one reason scientific research gets peer reviewed rather than published in student newsletters. To avoid super-embarrassing mistakes like this one its author made."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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A researcher at Johns Hopkins discovered something rather curious: deaths attributed to the China flu have increased throughout 2020 at the exact same rate that deaths attributed to other causes have decreased...
“Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same,” it read.
This is interesting for many reasons. There’s no question the virus can be deadly, but just how deadly is something we don’t know. You’d think we would by now, but we don’t. All we get reported to us are numbers, and numbers without context are meaningless. We’re told the “total number of cases in the US,” but this includes everyone who’s ever tested positive. That number dates back to March, and is over 13 million. But the vast majority of those people had it and got over it. There aren’t 13 million Americans infected right now. That would be a more useful number to know, would give the pandemic context, and help give people some perspective, which is likely [why] it's not reported. Can’t scare the hell out of people as easily with reality.
According to the Hopkins story, “not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.”
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Shockingly, the story concluded this way:
"When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising...this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
"This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly ... the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19."
https://townhall.com/columnists/dere...llide-n2580829
Hmmm... is the China flu really worse than the common flu?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA researcher at Johns Hopkins discovered something rather curious: deaths attributed to the China flu have increased throughout 2020 at the exact same rate that deaths attributed to other causes have decreased...
Hmmm... is the China flu really worse than the common flu?
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post...has already been debunked.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI see, so the "debunking" is basically some other guy saying, "Nuh uh!"
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New study suggests that the China flu may have entered the United States as early September 2019.
https://townhall.com/columnists/brad...he-us-n2581066Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
It wasn't debunked, it was ignored. Science is about asking questions, but all we hear from liberal morons is "Don't question the science!"
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