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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd what makes us think Biden was going to be the Dem's candidate?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim, feeling unsafe doesn't mean you are unsafe. I mean really do you think Trump put a contract on him? And the whistleblower does need to come forward - Trump has every right to face his accuser...
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd what makes us think Biden was going to be the Dem's candidate?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe conspiracy theory is that Trump knows he can't beat Biden, so he's trying to sabotage his campaign to keep him from being nominated.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, lawyers are given to theatrics - they love trying cases in the court of public opinion.
A) I can't find any evidence that the 'whistleblower' actually IS under "federal protection"
2) This is what you would expect the lawyers to say to attempt to bolster their accusations against Trump.
You keep asking if others are naive.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 09-30-2019, 01:35 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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The ot�er thing,
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JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIn this case, I'm saying it doesn't matter if the witness is under federal protection. The lawyers made the case that I am making - that Trump has threatened their client and that has created sufficient grounds of concern for his safety that this letter was written. That is all it needs to be. OTOH, do you really believe they would write a letter asking for protection and not have taken some extra measure to ensure the safety and the identity of their client given someone is offering reward money for it? If they haven't, that would be negligence.
Jim
hog and wash.
The lawyers are no dummies, and it's entirely to their benefit to create this belief that their client was so scared that they had to have protection.
But, hey -- it's working. YOU bought it!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIt is still enlisting a foreign country for aid winning an election.
JimAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post...
The lawyers are no dummies, and it's entirely to their benefit to create this belief that their client was so scared that they had to have protection.
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We will have to agree to disagree on that point.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 09-30-2019, 02:20 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAnd the very next exchange following Zelenski's reply to this request for a favor is: (i.e. a continuation of the same request for favors)...
The background you need to be familiar with is that the Ukrainian government was stonewalled for almost two-years by the FBI and Federal prosecutors in New York when Ukrainian officials attempted to deliver evidence of Biden's dirty dealings, so Ukraine contacted the US State Department directly who in turn contacted Giuliani. So by mentioning Giuliani, Zelinsky was referring to the Biden scandal, and Trump clearly understood that.
No pressure. No coercion. Just two equals having a high context conversation.
Your paranoid delusions are preventing you from being able to see clearly.Last edited by Mountain Man; 09-30-2019, 02:15 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostYou mean like what Clinton did with the Ukraine? https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446
Even if they somehow got away with it.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThat's how you're choosing to read it, but the part you left out is that Zelinsky volunteered without any prompting from Trump that his people had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani and were eager to meet with him.
The background you need to be familiar with is that the Ukrainian government was stonewalled for almost two-years by the FBI and Federal prosecutors in New York when Ukrainian officials attempted to deliver evidence of Biden's dirty dealings, so Ukraine contacted the US State Department directly who in turn contacted Giuliani. So by mentioning Giuliani, Zelinsky was referring to the Biden scandal, and Trump clearly understood that.
No pressure. No coercion. Just two equals having a high context conversation.
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JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe 'background' you give is the conservative media bias 'spin' on the story.Last edited by Mountain Man; 09-30-2019, 02:26 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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