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  • The voters keep Trump afloat. It is important to remember your personal responsibility at this time.

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    • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      The voters keep Trump afloat. It is important to remember your personal responsibility at this time.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        When are YOU going to get the fact that the role of the Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution when its meaning is challenged? That is its purpose. Your personal, agenda-based opinion about its decisions are irrelevant.
        No Tass, you don't get to make up what is not in the clause. That is what liberals do...



        Teachers are paid for by the state and hence state officials. If they recite prayers or authorize students to do so in an official school setting, they are violating the Supreme Court ruling already cited. Namely that it is unconstitutional even when the prayer is non-denominational and students may excuse themselves from participation.
        No Tass, what you are saying is unconstitutional - if you think otherwise show me in the actual text of the Constitutional.

        What about a Satanist or Muslim teacher in a state-school leading voluntary prayer? If only Christians are permitted to lead them, then Christianity is getting very close to being an established state religion forbidden by the Constitution.
        Yes, Christianity is preferred, as the Founders did...
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          The voters keep Trump afloat. It is important to remember your personal responsibility at this time.
          That's so true. The ultimate responsibility is ours, the citizenry, and it appears that the citizenry are slowly snapping out their apparent stupor as a majority now support Impeachment. The hardcore brainwashed "I could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose any support" Trump supporters are basically a lost cause, but that would always be the case anyway.

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          • Originally posted by JimL View Post
            That's so true. The ultimate responsibility is ours, the citizenry, and it appears that the citizenry are slowly snapping out their apparent stupor as a majority now support Impeachment. The hardcore brainwashed "I could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose any support" Trump supporters are basically a lost cause, but that would always be the case anyway.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • The transcripts are the evidence, lilpix. And remember, as bad as they already are, even they have been redacted.

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              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                The transcripts are the evidence, lilpix. And remember, as bad as they already are, even they have been redacted.
                Then why does Shifty Schiff have to make stuff up if he has the goods? Why do your puppetmasters have to lie? Maybe your team believes in fighting lies with lies?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Then why does Shifty Schiff have to make stuff up if he has the goods? Why do your puppetmasters have to lie? Maybe your team believes in fighting lies with lies?
                  Once again I'll point out that anybody who finds themselves having to make stuff up in order to bolster their position realizes, at least on some level, that their case is weak or they would never have to rely on fabricating falsehoods in order to support it

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    The transcripts are the evidence, lilpix. And remember, as bad as they already are, even they have been redacted.
                    Indeed. The transcripts are the evidence. And they put the lie to the whistleblower's claims -- which is why you question their veracity.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Once again I'll point out that anybody who finds themselves having to make stuff up in order to bolster their position realizes, at least on some level, that their case is weak or they would never have to rely on fabricating falsehoods in order to support it
                      EGGzackly. And if you have to have one of your most notorious liars and leakers lead the charge....
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        EGGzackly. And if you have to have one of your most notorious liars and leakers lead the charge....
                        From yesterday:

                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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                        Speaking of fairy tales... are you ever going to release the
                        "mountain" of evidence that you claim to have that proves
                        that Trump colluded with Putin to rig the 2016 election [ATTACH=CONFIG]40042[/ATTACH]
                        Attached Files

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          From yesterday:
                          Eggzackly -- maybe the liberals think Shiff is a subject matter expert on lying, therefore...
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Eggzackly -- maybe the liberals think Shiff is a subject matter expert on lying, therefore...
                            This seems pertinent:

                            Source: If The Case For Trump�s Impeachment Is So Strong, Why Are Liberals Lying About It?

                            summarized the transcriptOn CNNRead the transcript for yourselfPolitico ran a story with the headlineNew York Times, of all places, noted that Ukraine did not know the aid was put on hold until a month AFTER the callHe also reportedtwo transcripts were leaked to the press early in the Trump administrationhe tweeted a month agochanged their whistleblowing requirements that information be firsthand, not hearsay. Even self-righteous alleged conservatives who hate the PresidentSource

                            © Copyright Original Source



                            The article raises several good points a few of which I'll elaborate on.


                            The made-up "summaries" provided by the MSM, Schiff et.al. are being presented as "fact" and what was said during the conversation between Trump and Zelensky since the actual conversation does not support what they want.

                            There are still those claiming that the conversation was all about Biden with Trump obsessively mentioning him over and over, whereas in the real world Trump mentioned him three times in two sentences near the end of their talk almost as an afterthought.

                            The "cover up" is nonsensical and so desperate sounding. It's like they do understand that this is as big a dud as the Mueller Report and his appearance before Congress that they need to start making something, anything, up in hopes that the "seriousness of the charge" overcomes the fact that all the evidence contradicts what they're saying.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Indeed. The transcripts are the evidence. And they put the lie to the whistleblower's claims -- which is why you question their veracity.
                              I never questioned the veracity of the revealed transcripts, I question what's being hid in the redacted part. Only 10 minutes worth of a 30 minute call was revealed. And I'm hearing this a lot, that the whistleblower lied, but for one thing, what the whistleblower himself said is irrelevant, that's just the canard that you've fallen for, the evidence is the transcript itself and so are Trumps actions of withholding the military aid approved of by Congress for our ally, Ukraine, in its defense of our common foe.

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                              • Interesting article by Matthew Sorens on Christianity Today:

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