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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI didn't think of that. Most life insurance policies have a suicide exclusion.
https://www.nj.com/burlington/2019/0...ce-payout.htmlWhen I Survey....
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI thought he had been reassigned. Fired, for real?
I think I'll ask a friend who works in the Victorville prison. He may be able to clarify.Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostWas it noted here that the warden of that prison has been fired by the AG?
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI believe he was transferred rather than fired.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Ah okay. Got the link to copy. Yeah it was the head of the Bureau and she was transferred out of the job she'd held TEMPORARILY. Hm, temporarily, for more than a year? Yeah I'd say the prisons system had issues when such a high postion is held...temporarily.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...ay-2019-08-19/
*former fed employee mulling that over*Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostAh okay. Got the link to copy. Yeah it was the head of the Bureau and she was transferred out of the job she'd held TEMPORARILY. Hm, temporarily, for more than a year? Yeah I'd say the prisons system had issues when such a high postion is held...temporarily.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...ay-2019-08-19/
*former fed employee mulling that over*
The acting director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons has been removed from his position more than a week after Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide while in federal custody. Attorney General William Barr announced Hugh Hurwitz's reassignment Monday, stating that he will be replaced by Dr. Hawk Sawyer.
I think we're talking about two different people - still checking for the warden's name.Last edited by Cow Poke; 08-19-2019, 04:17 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, but let's clarify -- he wasn't the warden, was he? He was the acting director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons -- that's usually the guy over all the wardens.
I think we're talking about two different people - still checking for the warden's name.
What did the Department of Justice say?
In a statement, Mr Barr "directed the Bureau of Prisons to temporarily assign" warden Lamine N'Diaye to a regional office, pending a full investigation.
He will be replaced by James Petrucci, the warden of the federal prison in Otisville, New York.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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It seems fairly clear at this point in time that Epstein really did kill himself. I think it would be more relevant to address why guards are working such intense overtime hours because that could actually result in something productive happening."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt seems fairly clear at this point in time that Epstein really did kill himself. I think it would be more relevant to address why guards are working such intense overtime hours because that could actually result in something productive happening.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Neither men, Lamine N'Diaye - warden of the MCC, or Hugh Hurwitz - director of the BOP was fired. They were both reassigned. Lamine N'Diaye was assigned to a different prison (in Philaphedia where he was assigned earlier and actually under fire for a food sickness debacle previously - I guess in government, job security is pretty solid no matter what).
As far as Hugh Hurwitz...
Gee that's some punishment. He's not only been reassigned, but he's working with Barr.
I guess someone in the know here can tell us if moving between those two bureaus is actually a (position/pay?) downgrade because I honestly have no idea.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostNeither men, Lamine N'Diaye - warden of the MCC, or Hugh Hurwitz - director of the BOP was fired. They were both reassigned. Lamine N'Diaye was assigned to a different prison (in Philaphedia where he was assigned earlier and actually under fire for a food sickness debacle previously - I guess in government, job security is pretty solid no matter what).
As far as Hugh Hurwitz...
Gee that's some punishment. He's not only been reassigned, but he's working with Barr.
I guess someone in the know here can tell us if moving between those two bureaus is actually a (position/pay?) downgrade because I honestly have no idea.
I seriously doubt it will be a decrease in pay OR a loss of pension.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMy experience with "Civil Service" is that it's nearly impossible to get fired. Kinda like many teacher or public school positions. They simply ignore the problem until it's too glaring, then they "reassign". And it all has to do with unions.
I seriously doubt it will be a decrease in pay OR a loss of pension."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMy experience with "Civil Service" is that it's nearly impossible to get fired. Kinda like many teacher or public school positions. They simply ignore the problem until it's too glaring, then they "reassign". And it all has to do with unions.
I seriously doubt it will be a decrease in pay OR a loss of pension.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI had one co-worker at the post office who kept his job after drinking in his mail truck. I had another who kept her job after getting videotaped by a trainee (admittedly illegally due to two way recording laws) speeding, texting and driving, and not wearing a seatbelt, all at the same time. I had another one who kept his job after having 3-4 accidents, and being taken back to the station in the back of a police car after going 20 over through a neighborhood while screaming and cursing at customers and telling one to put their autistic child in a cage. (Apparently the final video made its way on Facebook, though I never saw it.)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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