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So what is this toxic masculinity thing anyhow?
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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat merely states personal opinions, wherein both parties believe it wrong, the former restraining himself, the latter acting on it. But how do you think the moral conclusion itself is arrived at, based on what?
People who do what they believe to be wrong, or immoral, are not necessarily mentally ill. If they were then we would all be mentally ill.
As explained above, you didn't answer the question I asked.
Rock, meet hard place.Last edited by Sparko; 04-17-2019, 07:24 AM.
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You claimed that it is only a mental disorder if someone is distressed by their thoughts.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostYour question betrays your ignorance. 'Mental disorders' are inextricably tied to behavior. A 'mental disorder' is a major disturbance or distress in thinking, feelings and behavior resulting in unacceptable behavior or disability or harm being caused in social situations or in the workplace. If they do not cause personal distress or disability and are not acted upon, they cannot be appropriately referred to as a mental disorder.
Therefore you think that the person who is distressed by their thoughts of pedophilia is mentally ill even though they seek help to stop, while the person who is not distressed by their thoughts and plans on acting on them is not mentally ill.
That is what you said. You can't back out of it now.
Or you could just take your foot out of your mouth and admit you were wrong.
I could at least respect that.Last edited by Sparko; 04-17-2019, 07:58 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat adults having sex with children is wrong. Do you disagree? Do you think adults having sex with children is OK?
OK, they could be perfectly sane and just evil as hell.
I did answer you. Now you answer. I know you won't because you would either have to agree with me, or admit you think adults having sex with children is moral.
Rock, meet hard place.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOf course I think it's wrong, but the question which you failed to answer was why is it considered wrong.
They could very well be perfectly sane just as are you when you do what you believe to be wrong.
No, as shown above, you keep avoiding to answer.
The only one avoiding answering is YOU.
And we all know why. Because you either have to agree with me or say that pedophilia is moral. You are caught in your own trap.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWhy do YOU think it is wrong, Jim?
If they are sane and having sex with children or even desiring it, then they are evil. Unless of course you think it is perfectly normal?
How am I avoiding the answer? I answered you every time. Are you expecting a specific answer?
The only one avoiding answering is YOU.
And we all know why. Because you either have to agree with me or say that pedophilia is moral. You are caught in your own trap.Last edited by JimL; 04-17-2019, 04:26 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostFor the same reason we make it a crime, because children are deemed to be unable to make reasoned choices and can be emotionally harmed. Thats why we have age of consent laws< Sparko....
*or whatever site it was from which you get your nonsenseThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYet in your defense of NAMBLA, you couldn't quite figure out what that age of consent would be, or what even a "boy" was. Perhaps time to consult your talkingpointsforliberaldummies* source?
*or whatever site it was from which you get your nonsense
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually, if I remember correctly, thats what the discussion was actually about and I asked you continually to tell me what the age of consent should be and you evaded answering, which like Sparko above, as is your forte.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou kept asking the question "what is a boy?" - and you were defending NAMBLA --- The age of consent was already established by law, dummy, but you were trying to justify NAMBLA's violation of that law.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI remember that discussion well, and I'm still surprised JimL went there.
Just let him try to push this!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou claimed that it is only a mental disorder if someone is distressed by their thoughts.Therefore you think that the person who is distressed by their thoughts of pedophilia is mentally ill even though they seek help to stop, while the person who is not distressed by their thoughts and plans on acting on them is not mentally ill.
That is what you said. You can't back out of it now.
Or you could just take your foot out of your mouth and admit you were wrong.
I could at least respect that.Last edited by Tassman; 04-17-2019, 11:38 PM.
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Yet, you seem to think that Sparko will be reduced to tears by the drama queen ranting of an anti-Christian bigot who routinely spews forth false allegations?
Tassman, you seem especially unstable today --- need a tissue?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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