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Mueller report will be 'devastating' for the president: Frequent Trump defender

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  • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    ...it's notably difficult to support a legal case with admitted liars.
    Especially when their (supposed) lies have no direct bearing on the matter being investigated.

    And here's something interesting I read recently: you don't actually have to lie to be charged with a process crime. You just have to say something that contradicts someone else, and then the prosecutor gets to decide if he wants to charge you with lying to investigators. In Flynn's case, it seems that Mueller used the indictment as leverage but didn't have a solid enough case to pursue incarceration.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Especially when their (supposed) lies have no direct bearing on the matter being investigated.
      Not to excuse lying, but those lies wouldn't even exist apart from the investigation. Hence, they are "process crimes".
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Trump? Aren't you forgetting about...


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        • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Trump? Aren't you forgetting about...

          Isn't that where she was giving the Russians permission to overcharge? Like when they take our astronauts into space?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Trump? Aren't you forgetting about...

            Hillary sells a significant portion of our uranium to Russia while she and Bill accept millions of dollars in "donations" from Russian oligarchs.

            Democrats say, "But they're our friends!"

            Preside Elect Trump's transition team meets with Russian dignitaries.

            Democrats say, "But they're our enemies!"
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Because they're not telling you what you want to hear?
              You mean as opposed to your extreme right wing, propaganda source Breitbart?

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              • Source: Dershowitz: Mueller Investigation Is Over �as Far as Trump�s Concerned�

                https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...-is-concerned/

                © Copyright Original Source

                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Source: Dershowitz: Mueller Investigation Is Over �as Far as Trump�s Concerned�

                  https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...-is-concerned/

                  © Copyright Original Source

                  Last edited by Tassman; 12-18-2018, 01:22 AM.

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                  • Starting with a person and looking for crimes is harassment. but it isn't a problem when you liberals are on the pitchfork handle's end.
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      Source: Dershowitz: Mueller Investigation Is Over �as Far as Trump�s Concerned�

                      https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018...-is-concerned/

                      © Copyright Original Source

                      Yeah, but Dershowitz as he so often makes clear on Fox News, isn't acting as defense Attorney for Trump. I don't know what the thing is with Dershowitz other than his friendship with Trump, but he is going way out of his way to defend the very and obvious corrupt Trump, his organization and his administration. To declare that the investigation into Trump is over is so over the top idiotic, one has to wonder whats really going on with Dershowitz. Even Fox news own Judge Nepolitano says that Trump could already be secretly under indictment.

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                      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        Starting with a person and looking for crimes is harassment. but it isn't a problem when you liberals are on the pitchfork handle's end.
                        They didn't start with a person, they started with what a person did, the firing of the FBI head, J. Comey, for not going along with Trumps obstruction scheme of "letting the Flynn thing go." You probably have no idea what Flynn was under investigation for at the time and that the Trump administration was well aware of it and yet kept him on in the administration long after knowing it. Comey knew that, and so to go along with the Presidents suggestion "to let the Flynn thing go" would have been like a soldier obeying an illegal command. Apparently, so it seems, you extreme right wingers are all for autocracy.

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          They didn't start with a person, they started with what a person did, the firing of the FBI head, J. Comey, for not going along with Trumps obstruction scheme of "letting the Flynn thing go." You probably have no idea what Flynn was under investigation for at the time and that the Trump administration was well aware of it and yet kept him on in the administration long after knowing it. Comey knew that, and so to go along with the Presidents suggestion "to let the Flynn thing go" would have been like a soldier obeying an illegal command. Apparently, so it seems, you extreme right wingers are all for autocracy.
                          Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/incoming-new-york-attorney-general-plans-wide-ranging-investigations-trump-n946706


                          New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Donald Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law once she settles into her new job next month.

                          "We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected last month

                          © Copyright Original Source



                          Q.E.D.
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                            Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/incoming-new-york-attorney-general-plans-wide-ranging-investigations-trump-n946706


                            New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Donald Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law once she settles into her new job next month.

                            "We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected last month

                            © Copyright Original Source



                            Q.E.D.
                            Well, that is only because of the evidence of Trumps corruption already uncovered as a result of the Mueller investigation and journalism initiated by Trumps obstruction. The Atty Gen, is not just starting with the person as you put it, she's starting with the evidence.

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Well, that is only because of the evidence of Trumps corruption already uncovered as a result of the Mueller investigation and journalism initiated by Trumps obstruction. The Atty Gen, is not just starting with the person as you put it, she's starting with the evidence.
                              No it isn't. It's covering far more than Mueller's light-years off course witch hunt...
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                                No it isn't. It's covering far more than Mueller's light-years off course witch hunt...
                                I said evidence brought out by both the Mueller as well jounalist investigations into the corrupt Trump organization.

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