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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThis just shows how much in a propaganda bubble the US conservatives are with the "Iran deal was a bad deal" BS rhetoric. You guys are completely ignorant of the situation in Iran, yet you tell yourselves over and over it was a bad deal and you believe your own garbage.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYa know, I am utterly skeptical of these alleged facts. Care to share?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThis just shows how much in a propaganda bubble the US conservatives are with the "Iran deal was a bad deal" BS rhetoric. You guys are completely ignorant of the situation in Iran, yet you tell yourselves over and over it was a bad deal and you believe your own garbage."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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It is a bit surprising that Starlight supports a regime which executes homosexuals, in accordance with sharia law.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt is a bit surprising that Starlight supports a regime which executes homosexuals, in accordance with sharia law.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's always puzzled me - how the left can elevate "the religion of peace" above Christianity when Islam doesn't have the best record on the treatment of women or homosexuality. It's like "we hate Christianity so much we're willing to ignore...."
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI think that's it. It is PC to embrace minority religions, while denigrating the majority. No matter what that religion actually teaches or does.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWell, Mormons are fair game. I guess they're too close to Christianity.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's always puzzled me - how the left can elevate "the religion of peace" above Christianity when Islam doesn't have the best record on the treatment of women or homosexuality.
I suspect that any such elevation is based partly on right-wing misunderstanding and misinformation, partly on left-wing ignorance and wishful thinking, and partly on population disparity forcing US Muslims to be more tolerant than they might be otherwise.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Not that I disagree with anything you said Roy, but I would also note that:
(1) Muslims who live in the US are more liberal as a whole than US Evangelicals (see various polls and surveys on social issues) and are in fact one of the more liberal demographics in the country (I've heard this is not the case in the UK, where your Muslim population leans quite conservative). Often the reason those US Muslims have moved to the US in the first place is to get away from conservative religion. So CP may whinge about "Islam doesn't have the best record on the treatment of women or homosexuality" while at the same time himself, as a US Evangelical, having a worse view on those social issues than US Muslims do on average.
(2) Muslims are a minority in the US who are subjected to prejudice, and we always need to treat minorities with kid gloves and not all gang up on them."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNot that I disagree with anything you said Roy, but I would also note that:
(1) Muslims who live in the US are more liberal as a whole than US Evangelicals (see various polls and surveys on social issues) and are in fact one of the more liberal demographics in the country (I've heard this is not the case in the UK, where your Muslim population leans quite conservative).
I do know that immigrants tend to be from the more adventurous, intelligent and hard-working subsections of societies, and so they won't necessarily be reflective of the societies they emigrated from, even in their religion....we always need to treat minorities with kid gloves and not all gang up on them.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post(2) Muslims are a minority in the US who are subjected to prejudice, and we always need to treat minorities with kid gloves and not all gang up on them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI suspect that's not true, not least because a large proportion of the left in the US are Christians themselves.
I suspect that any such elevation is based partly on right-wing misunderstanding and misinformation, partly on left-wing ignorance and wishful thinking, and partly on population disparity forcing US Muslims to be more tolerant than they might be otherwise.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by Roy View PostI suspect that's not true, not least because a large proportion of the left in the US are Christians themselves.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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