Assessment of Mr. Trump

[JimL]

Yep, if you're going to give it CP, then don't whine and complain when you get it. That was carpe's point.

[Cow Poke]

Haven't I treated you with respect, and have I ever called you names or demeaned you? (not counting when we're obviously playing)

[Cow Poke]

Yep, if you're going to give it CP, then don't whine and complain when you get it. That was carpe's point.

Was that your point, Carpe?

And, where, exactly, was I whining about anything, Jim? That seems to be one of your favorite false accusations.

This list is quite old...

CP, stop whining will you...

I know, you always have, and always do, so stop your hypocritical whining CP.

Really not sure what all the whining is about.

so stop your constant and pathetic

Your constant whining....

...instead of the likes of those whining weasels trying to take her down.

Stop whining for them.

And republicans should stop whining...

Thats not what BtC was whining about CP, he was whining....

... that when Obama refused give in to their whining and threats.

Just a lot of whining and badmouthing.

Now stop your whining Lilpix.

...you go around calling yourselves libertarians and whining...

Just because somebody opposes you, Jim, or states a fact or expresses an opinion you don't like doesn't mean they're "whining".

[carpedm9587]

Haven't I treated you with respect, and have I ever called you names or demeaned you? (not counting when we're obviously playing)

[Cow Poke]

We're good!

[carpedm9587]

Yep, if you're going to give it CP, then don't whine and complain when you get it. That was carpe's point.

No - that wasn't Carpe's point. I am all in favor of rigorous, even heated, debate. From such discussions understanding CAN come. But the ongoing bickering and insulting that goes on here strikes me as more than a little useless. In fact, it's pretty much counter-productive, IMO.

THAT was my point.

And, as I said, I was not not addressing CP specifically.

Edited to add: I guess I found myself sitting quietly on my couch, looking at the tree, thinking about the season, you know - peace on earth - good will towards all - and so forth - and was just struck by the degree and quality of the discord on here, especially now. I guess I let my "Christmas Mood" give me permission to butt in and where I frankly had no business. My apologies. I'll desist and go watch a nice movie. G'night all.

[Cow Poke]

No - that wasn't Carpe's point. I am all in favor of rigorous, even heated, debate. From such discussions understanding CAN come. But the ongoing bickering and insulting that goes on here strikes me as more than a little useless. In fact, it's pretty much counter-productive, IMO.

THAT was my point.

And, as I said, I was not not addressing CP specifically.

Edited to add: I guess I found myself sitting quietly on my couch, looking at the tree, thinking about the season, you know - peace on earth - good will towards all - and so forth - and was just struck by the degree and quality of the discord on here, especially now. I guess I let my "Christmas Mood" give me permission to butt in and where I frankly had no business. My apologies. I'll desist and go watch a nice movie. G'night all.

You're good. And you put me in mind of Wadsworth's....

I heard the bells on Christmas Day
Their old, familiar carols play,

and wild and sweet
The words repeat

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

And thought how, as the day had come,
The belfries of all Christendom

Had rolled along
The unbroken song

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

Till ringing, singing on its way,
The world revolved from night to day,

A voice, a chime,
A chant sublime

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

Then from each black, accursed mouth
The cannon thundered in the South,

And with the sound
The carols drowned

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

It was as if an earthquake rent
The hearth-stones of a continent,

And made forlorn
The households born

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

And in despair I bowed my head;
"There is no peace on earth," I said;

"For hate is strong,
And mocks the song

Of peace on earth, good-will to men!"

Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
"God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;

The Wrong shall fail,
The Right prevail,

With peace on earth, good-will to men."

[Mountain Man]

Meanwhile, a talking head at CNN says, that Trump "could become the most consequential president in the modern era ... Consequential meaning most important and significant, having the biggest overall impact."

Can't believe they let someone on the air tell the truth for a change. Somebody is so totally getting fired for that slip-up.

[demi-conservative]

maybe take the debate/discussion up a notch.

Just a wish...hope....

In same spirit of wish and hope, I will say this:

1) Stop LARPing as moderate who wants to listen and understand. So fake, also obvious!

2) Did you actually '''''listen''''' to, also ''''engage'''' with any pro-Trump people in this thread? People like CP, Pig are not supporters. But that's all right, not actually engaging with The Other Side is good for fake LARPing of yours!!

[Cow Poke]

Meanwhile, a talking head at CNN says, that Trump "could become the most consequential president in the modern era ... Consequential meaning most important and significant, having the biggest overall impact."

Can't believe they let someone on the air tell the truth for a change. Somebody is so totally getting fired for that slip-up.

It goes back to whoever it was who first said "they're taking him literally, but not taking him seriously".

[JimL]

Was that your point, Carpe?

And, where, exactly, was I whining about anything, Jim? That seems to be one of your favorite false accusations.

This list is quite old...

Oh please, no false accusation, your list, and Sparko's list, and MM's list, and rogues list, are all just as long and just as old.














Just because somebody opposes you, Jim, or states a fact or expresses an opinion you don't like doesn't mean they're "whining".[/QUOTE]

[Cow Poke]

Oh please, no false accusation, your list, and Sparko's list, and MM's list, and rogues list, are all just as long and just as old.

As per usual, I provide actual evidence, you just anally ventilate digestive gasses to atmosphere.

Merry Christmas, Jim, however you observe it.

[Starlight]

Meanwhile, a talking head at CNN says, that Trump "could become the most consequential president in the modern era ... Consequential meaning most important and significant, having the biggest overall impact."

That could be true: Trump's Presidency might the be the nail in the coffin of the Republican party.

The Dems got +15 point swings on mean and median in the special elections and are looking at +19 point swings in 2018 congressional and senate races in current polling of "incumbent republican vs generic democrat". Paul Ryan is talking about resigning himself before he embarrassingly loses his own seat in 2018. It's looking set for a bloodbath in 2018 and 2020 at the moment, and longer term the demographics for Republican voters (older, whiter, evangelical, anti-abortion) aren't helpful. It's possible the Republican party might find a way to save itself, but it might split and get replaced, or it might hang on as a minority party like it did in the 1933 to 1969 period and go another 35 years without really winning a presidency (obviously Eisenhower ran as a Republican but he would have won in either party as people were voting for him not the party).

[Tassman]

It's really really helpful to call the President "Fat Donny" - it reveals the level of sophistication and intellectual depth of the poster.

Selective as always! The epithet wasn't the point, as should have been obvious. The point was that of credibility. Trump is demonstrably a compulsive liar and has very little credibility compared to that of most MSM such as CNN or the BBC.

[Cow Poke]

Selective as always!

I'm learning that pretty much anytime you say always and never, you're not being honest. Not surprising in the least.

The epithet wasn't the point, as should have been obvious. The point was that of credibility. Trump is demonstrably a compulsive liar and has very little credibility compared to that of most MSM such as CNN or the BBC.

So, "fat people" aren't credible? You're just so petty.