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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    My stepson is another fentanyl statistic.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #32
      Originally posted by seer View Post

      Sorry to hear that.
      Thanks. He was a complete trainwreck heading for an early demise. But I felt horrible for his mother.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

        DEA Fentanyl Seizures in 2024

        In 2023, DEA seized more than 80 million fentanyl-laced fake pills and nearly 12,000 pounds of fentanyl powder. The 2023 seizures are equivalent to more than 381 million lethal doses of fentanyl.

        The 2024 fentanyl seizures represent over 162 million deadly doses. *

        Millions of Fentanyl Pills Seized +24,300,000

        Pounds of Fentanyl Powder Seized 3,247+ lbs

        Last I checked, 3,247 > 713
        Wow, the Biden Administration is doing quite a job seizing all that Fentanyl, eh. It's amazing how much better the Biden Administration has been doing seizing all those drugs before they got into the U.S. than the Trump administration did.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JimL View Post

          Wow, the Biden Administration is doing quite a job seizing all that Fentanyl, eh. It's amazing how much better the Biden Administration has been doing seizing all those drugs before they got into the U.S. than the Trump administration did.


          A simple exercise in logic, if Border Control is seizing more fentanyl, it means there is more coming over the border. Seeing as fentanyl laced gummies bears have ended up in elementary schools, not all of it is being seized at the border which means undoubtedly more is getting into the US.
          P1) If , then I win.

          P2)

          C) I win.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            The Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) is rather redundant, doing the same thing that other agencies are also doing.
            EGGzackly! But who ever said government was efficient?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Diogenes View Post



              A simple exercise in logic, if Border Control is seizing more fentanyl, it means there is more coming over the border. Seeing as fentanyl laced gummies bears have ended up in elementary schools, not all of it is being seized at the border which means undoubtedly more is getting into the US.
              Yeah, you would have to believe that US Customs and Border Patrol simply decided to do better work under Biden than previously, which makes no sense whatsoever.




              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Diogenes View Post



                A simple exercise in logic, if Border Control is seizing more fentanyl, it means there is more coming over the border. Seeing as fentanyl laced gummies bears have ended up in elementary schools, not all of it is being seized at the border which means undoubtedly more is getting into the US.
                A simple exercise in sarcasm.

                But actually, it means no such thing since you have no idea how much is or is not coming over the border. For all you know the border patrol could just be seizing more. Heck, if it comes over the border, even they don't know it

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post

                  A simple exercise in sarcasm.

                  But actually, it means no such thing since you have no idea how much is or is not coming over the border. For all you know the border patrol could just be seizing more. Heck, if it comes over the border, even they don't know it
                  You are a fool Jim, how many friends and loved one have you lost?
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by seer View Post

                    That has nothing to do with the flood of fentanyl coming in the last three and a half years under Biden.
                    The War on Drugs and Just say no has been going on for decades and has never worked. Perhaps you should consider the Sackler family as among the culprits for the US opioid crisis.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      For me his post is eerily reminiscent of some of the tweets by Philadelphia journalist Josh Kruger, who routinely downplayed and ridiculed the crime issue in his hometown.



                      Kruger was later shot in his home seven times.

                      A former partner was later charged.
                      Concerns over law and order are standard fare for any election but how accurate are the claims being made by Republicans? That voters believe such claims is another issue.





                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                        Thanks. He was a complete trainwreck heading for an early demise. But I felt horrible for his mother.
                        My niece was an RN coming off a 24 hour shift. She took an 'off brand' Valium she got from a 'friend.' Went to sleep and never woke up. Left a husband and two young boys.
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post

                          A simple exercise in sarcasm.

                          But actually, it means no such thing since you have no idea how much is or is not coming over the border. For all you know the border patrol could just be seizing more. Heck, if it comes over the border, even they don't know it
                          I think Cow Pole said it best:

                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          Yeah, you would have to believe that US Customs and Border Patrol simply decided to do better work under Biden than previously, which makes no sense whatsoever.



                          P1) If , then I win.

                          P2)

                          C) I win.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by seer View Post

                            You mean like the rhetoric you and other leftists are using about Trump and the possibility of his reelection?
                            There you go. That right there is the biggest crises right now, not only for the U.S. but for the entire free and democratic world.
                            Also, there is too, the fact that there could possibly be so many Americans that don't get it and support him, or worse, that do get it, and support him anyway. That's a "crises"!!

                            Yep, so Trump would be it, the only real "crises" the U.S. is facing right now.

                            With respect to Carps question, i.e. where is the language of "crises" that we constantly hear republicans whining about coming from?
                            Well, that would be the Republicans hatred for the other, whether it be their hatred for gays/lgbtq, books, atheists, pro-abortionists, atheists, liberals/Democrats, immigrants/vermin
                            etc. etc.
                            That's where the "crises" language that you hear from republicans is coming from. They see the U.S. as being their country, a mostly Christian, mostly white conservative country, founded upon Christian Principles, and fear that they are losing that and can't bear the truth of the matter which is that the U.S is a secular diverse country.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by seer View Post

                              My niece was an RN coming off a 24 hour shift. She took an 'off brand' Valium she got from a 'friend.' Went to sleep and never woke up. Left a husband and two young boys.
                              Sad.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                                Concerns over law and order are standard fare for any election but how accurate are the claims being made by Republicans? That voters believe such claims is another issue.
                                It would seem that the Republicans outlook is far closer to reality than the let's "nothing to see here" attitude.

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