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Trump: No Transgenders In The Military!
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostBeyond the expense of individual test? Beyond there's no way of truly knowing how one will react to a stressor until they are actually there? Or the fact that you don't always have access to drugs or medical equipment when deployed to some God forsaken hole, far from civilization? Ever camped out in tents for 6 months? I have and you sure don't want someone needing hormones in the middle of the sand hill I was at, hours from a hospital, even by jet aircraft. The military isn't the place for social experinents, it's a place dedicated to defending the US. You want social justice experiments? Start a company and do it on your own dime.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYeah, you conservatives used to say the same thing about women like yourself serving in the military. They were wrong, as usual!"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNot that you've bothered to actually prove this assertion.
This is in relation to homosexuality, not specifically to transgenders. But the same applies in that such an attitude is contrary to the guidelines for transgender-affirmative care issued by the APA.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostHe never even consulted with the military...Last edited by Roy; 08-01-2017, 06:01 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostTrump said it so it must be true!
Pentagon appears to confirm Trump lied about consulting generals on bigoted ban
"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostBeyond the expense of individual test? Beyond there's no way of truly knowing how one will react to a stressor until they are actually there? Or the fact that you don't always have access to drugs or medical equipment when deployed to some God forsaken hole, far from civilization? Ever camped out in tents for 6 months? I have and you sure don't want someone needing hormones in the middle of the sand hill I was at, hours from a hospital, even by jet aircraft. The military isn't the place for social experinents, it's a place dedicated to defending the US. You want social justice experiments? Start a company and do it on your own dime.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostEven someone did end up needing medication, that's no different from any other developed medical need.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/politi...ies/index.htmlAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Roy View PostTrump tweeted it so it must be true!Last edited by Mountain Man; 08-01-2017, 08:06 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostHe's Making Lying Great Again! That's his slogan, right?
Pentagon appears to confirm Trump lied about consulting generals on bigoted ban
Just because Captain Davis doesn't know who the President consulted does not prove or even imply that the President never consulted anybody.
This is basic logic.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Idiotic Missile View PostNo they aren't. A mental disorder is only diagnosed if a mentality interferes with day-to-day life. If a transperson is at peace with their condition due to something like gender expression or hormone replacement therapy/sexual reassignment surgery, then they cannot be said to have gender dysphoria.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostUnless you have evidence that he's lying -- for instance, an on-the-record statement from one of his top generals saying that Trump never consulted any military advisers or personnel -- then I'm willing to presume the President is telling the truth.
I doubt you'd accept any such statement anyway. You've already ignored a statement by the DoD spokesperson that he couldn't say to which generals Trump was referring. You've also stated that all medical professionals who disagree with you are committing perjury.Last edited by Roy; 08-01-2017, 09:21 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostYou've already ignored a statement by the DoD spokesperson that he couldn't say to which generals Trump was referring.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Simple solution: Allow Transgenders to serve in the military but don't pay for any surgery or related therapies (psych, hormones, drugs) etc. Let them pay for it themselves like any elective surgery in the public sector. My health insurance would not cover any such thing so why should the military?
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