$15/hr Min Wage - We told you so

[rogue06]

The guy on his feet 20 - 40 hours a week should make less than the guy that works two weeks and every other weekend?

I'm good with pay increases for low ranking military - but the guy that is working his backside off deserves at least a little respect.

You might want to keep in mind that at various times a good number of those deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan were members of the National Guard.

Or this

Source: Most vet suicides among Guard, Reserve troops

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[Darth Executor]

Eventually we you will all be the fast food guy begging for the last scraps of labour as the Tech Lords and their machine armada have eliminated the need for 99.9999% of human labor.

[Cow Poke]

Coming soon, to restaurants near you....

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[Catholicity]

The guy on his feet 20 - 40 hours a week should make less than the guy that works two weeks and every other weekend?

I'm good with pay increases for low ranking military - but the guy that is working his backside off deserves at least a little respect.

The national guard "trains" two weekends plus two weeks. But they do more than that. They take care of local emergency situations. They are the local troops and handle emergencies side by side with the red cross when there is no water, food, shelter etc. These are the people we depend on after hurricanes earthquakes landslides, severe floods, etc to bring in food and water and shelter and rescue along with fire squadron rescues. That's the Nat'l guard.
Remember teal I know how it feels to be on your feet, and I surely thing positions that involve healthcare are worthy of the over 15/hr range, I also believe that the military should make money, enough so that they don't have to file for WIC or Food Stamps. They deserve better for a thankless job.

[Darth Executor]

Military is probably one of the least thankless jobs in the United States. It's hard to think of an institution that gathers as much widespread respect.

[Bill the Cat]

The national guard "trains" two weekends plus two weeks. But they do more than that. They take care of local emergency situations. They are the local troops and handle emergencies side by side with the red cross when there is no water, food, shelter etc. These are the people we depend on after hurricanes earthquakes landslides, severe floods, etc to bring in food and water and shelter and rescue along with fire squadron rescues. That's the Nat'l guard.
Remember teal I know how it feels to be on your feet, and I surely thing positions that involve healthcare are worthy of the over 15/hr range, I also believe that the military should make money, enough so that they don't have to file for WIC or Food Stamps. They deserve better for a thankless job.

I retired from the Air National Guard. Thanks for your post Cath. I can say that the guy on his feet 20 hrs a week isn't under 24 hour recall. On Sept 11, 2001, I was working for Verizon, and in a matter of 3 hours, I became a full time military member for 14 months, losing the Verizon job in the process. Very few "part-time" professions run the risk of being immediately called up and sent to a foreign country in a 24 hour period.

[Cow Poke]

Military is probably one of the least thankless jobs in the United States. It's hard to think of an institution that gathers as much widespread respect.

Unfortunately, one cannot buy milk, bread and meat with respect.

[RumTumTugger]

That is a decent link - the article links both studies.

Berkeley only looks at food service, Washington looks at the entire labor market. Berkeley is not superior methodologically that I can see - it is studying a smaller cross section.

What specific methodological issues did you find?

Starlight isn't interested in methodology used in studies Teal. He will accept only those studies that agree with him no matter how bad the methodology of the study is. If the study disagrees with him it is a terrible study no matter how good the methodology was.

[Teallaura]

You might want to keep in mind that at various times a good number of those deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan were members of the National Guard.

Or this

Source: Most vet suicides among Guard, Reserve troops

Source

© Copyright Original Source

Sure, but that would be why I support raising their pay - I just don't agree that you have to treat your cashier like she doesn't matter just because the US military has a crappy pay scale.

[Teallaura]

The national guard "trains" two weekends plus two weeks. But they do more than that. They take care of local emergency situations. They are the local troops and handle emergencies side by side with the red cross when there is no water, food, shelter etc. These are the people we depend on after hurricanes earthquakes landslides, severe floods, etc to bring in food and water and shelter and rescue along with fire squadron rescues. That's the Nat'l guard.
Remember teal I know how it feels to be on your feet, and I surely thing positions that involve healthcare are worthy of the over 15/hr range, I also believe that the military should make money, enough so that they don't have to file for WIC or Food Stamps. They deserve better for a thankless job.

Granted - both my sisters were career guard. But it DOES NOT FOLLOW that 'burger flippers' shouldn't receive a decent wage for their work just because the US Military hasn't met its obligations to its personnel.

[Teallaura]

Unfortunately, one cannot buy milk, bread and meat with respect.

Neither can the guy who's only job is asking you whether or not you want fries.

[One Bad Pig]

Neither can the guy who's only job is asking you whether or not you want fries.

That guy's usually living with mom and dad. It's an entry-level job requiring almost no skill; most people don't stay in it for long.

[Teallaura]

That guy's usually living with mom and dad. It's an entry-level job requiring almost no skill; most people don't stay in it for long.

I know people my age working those jobs. It may be an entry level job but it's not limited to college kids still living at home.

I also know guardsmen who are still living with mom and dad.

[Darth Executor]

That guy's usually living with mom and dad. It's an entry-level job requiring almost no skill;

Not anymore.

[Cow Poke]

Neither can the guy who's only job is asking you whether or not you want fries.

Yes, the ENTRY-LEVEL job that was never intended to be a full-time gig.