Dragphobia on the rise...

[rogue06]

I personally dislike reading books to kids and only do it when I'm dragged into it. But lots of people do enjoy things like that, and aspire to become childcare workers and kindergarten workers. They enjoy spending time around young kids and educating them. Good for them. Someone needs to do it, and I'm glad it's not me having to.

It looks more like they use that as the excuse to dress in drag and be around young children.

Some subset of those people are also going to be people who happen to enjoy dressing up in drag as one of their hobbies. Kids usually enjoy costumes (except sometimes clowns are scary), and almost always seem to enjoy books being read to them, so I imagine they find this entertaining.

Riiight. Nothing but good old fashion wholesome fun.

Did you write above in order to try to convince others -- or yourself?

[Cow Poke]

I personally dislike reading books to kids and only do it when I'm dragged into it.

Maybe that's why they're called DRAG queens?

But lots of people do enjoy things like that, and aspire to become childcare workers and kindergarten workers. They enjoy spending time around young kids and educating them. Good for them. Someone needs to do it, and I'm glad it's not me having to.

Catholic priests love being around altar boys and spending time with them them --- Somebody needs to do it, so....

Some subset of those people are also going to be people who happen to enjoy dressing up in drag as one of their hobbies.

And there are actually venues for that!

Kids usually enjoy costumes (except sometimes clowns are scary), and almost always seem to enjoy books being read to them, so I imagine they find this entertaining.

Priests love to dress up in costumes and spend time with small boys, so I imagine they find this entertaining.

[Starlight]

Nothing but good old fashion wholesome fun.

I imagine some of them feel they are being of service to these children by helping them understand the diversity of people in the world. If any of these children happen to be LGBT, they will grow up not feeling so isolated because they have seen people like themselves in their lives.

[Starlight]

Catholic priests love being around altar boys and spending time with them them

And there's not a movement to ban priests and pastors from ever interacting with kids, just an awareness that it should probably happen with other adults present and that when sexual abuse claims are made that they shouldn't be covered up. There does seem to be a movement to ban drag queens from interacting with kids, at all, in any way, even when other adults are present. Seems to be the usual double-standard I've come to expect from US conservatives.

[Cow Poke]

And there's not a movement to ban priests and pastors from ever interacting with kids, just an awareness that it should probably happen with other adults present and that when sexual abuse claims are made that they shouldn't be covered up.

Actually, when Southern Baptists were charged with this, we took the bull by the horns and fired people and overwhelmingly voted to address the situation head on. Yet another example where you "read stuff", so you think you know how things work here, but you don't.

There does seem to be a movement to ban drag queens from interacting with kids, at all, in any way, even when other adults are present. Seems to be the usual double-standard I've come to expect from US conservatives.

Because you're ignorant of the actual facts.

[Diogenes]

And there's not a movement to ban priests and pastors from ever interacting with kids, just an awareness that it should probably happen with other adults present and that when sexual abuse claims are made that they shouldn't be covered up. There does seem to be a movement to ban drag queens from interacting with kids, at all, in any way, even when other adults are present. Seems to be the usual double-standard I've come to expect from US conservatives.

Because drag queens are comparable to clergy.

[Diogenes]

Actually, when Southern Baptists were charged with this, we took the bull by the horns and fired people and overwhelmingly voted to address the situation head on. Yet another example where you "read stuff", so you think you know how things work here, but you don't.



Because you're ignorant of the actual facts.

Of course, don't tell Starlight about abuse in public schools, he may suggest to cancel public schools.

[Cow Poke]

Of course, don't tell Starlight about abuse in public schools, he may suggest to cancel public schools.

That was next.

[Starlight]

Actually, when Southern Baptists were charged with this, we took the bull by the horns and fired people and overwhelmingly voted to address the situation head on.

I didn't say you didn't. Reread my post and deal with what I actually said, and not with the first irrelevant side-track you happen to think of.

Because you're ignorant of the actual facts.

LOL. You wish.

[Cow Poke]

I didn't say you didn't. Reread my post...

I'd rather have a root canal without anesthesia.

[Cow Poke]

Here are some good points.... maybe there's not as much public opposition to this nonsense because it's considered homophobic to tell the truth...

The Real Story Behind Drag Queen Story Hour

But many parents, even if reluctant to say it publicly, have an instinctual distrust of adult men in women’s clothing dancing and exploring sexual themes with their children.

Why would they be afraid to say it publicly? Because the world seems all enamored with this crap, and it's "intolerant" to object to it.

And it gets political...

The intellectual debate has even spilled into real-world conflict: right-wing militants affiliated with the Proud Boys and the Three Percenters have staged protests against drag events for children, while their counterparts in the left-wing Antifa movement have responded with offers to serve as a protection force for the drag queens.

"Queer Theory"?

Start with queer theory, the academic discipline born in 1984 with the publication of Gayle S. Rubin’s essay “Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality.” Beginning in the late 1970s, Rubin, a lesbian writer and activist, had immersed herself in the subcultures of leather, bondage, orgies, fisting, and sado-masochism in San Francisco, migrating through an ephemeral network of BDSM (bondage, domination, sadomasochism) clubs, literary societies, and New Age spiritualist gatherings. In “Thinking Sex,” Rubin sought to reconcile her experiences in the sexual underworld with the broader forces of American society. Following the work of the French theorist Michel Foucault, Rubin sought to expose the power dynamics that shaped and repressed human sexual experience.

"Boylove"?

Where does this process end? At its logical conclusion: the abolition of restrictions on the behavior at the bottom end of the moral spectrum—pedophilia. Though she uses euphemisms such as “boylovers” and “men who love underaged youth,” Rubin makes her case clearly and emphatically. In long passages throughout “Thinking Sex,” Rubin denounces fears of child sex abuse as “erotic hysteria,” rails against anti–child pornography laws, and argues for legalizing and normalizing the behavior of “those whose eroticism transgresses generational boundaries.” These men are not deviants, but victims, in Rubin’s telling. “Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s, boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders for their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation,” she explains. “Consequently, the police have feasted on them. Local police, the FBI, and watchdog postal inspectors have joined to build a huge apparatus whose sole aim is to wipe out the community of men who love underaged youth. In twenty years or so, when some of the smoke has cleared, it will be much easier to show that these men have been the victims of a savage and undeserved witch hunt.” Rubin wrote fondly of those primitive hunter-gatherer tribes in New Guinea in which “boy-love” was practiced freely.

[Diogenes]

Here are some good points.... maybe there's not as much public opposition to this nonsense because it's considered homophobic to tell the truth...

The Real Story Behind Drag Queen Story Hour

That was one of the links I was going to post which I thought was less tame to put in the main forum.

[Cow Poke]

The Real Story Behind Drag Queen Story Hour


That was one of the links I was going to post which I thought was less tame to put in the main forum.

"Queer Theory" was new to me. I've lived such a sheltered life.

[Diogenes]

"Queer Theory" was new to me. I've lived such a sheltered life.

Queer theory is tame compared to what's down the pipe.

Edit: I'll admit it's new to me as well.

[Cow Poke]

Queer theory is tame compared to what's down the pipe.

Edit: I'll admit it's new to me as well.

I have to remember to use stealth mode, especially on my church computer, cause SHEEEEESH, my search history would be really hard to explain to somebody who didn't know me!

There are some REALLY sick people in this world. In 1991 I went to an FBI Sex Crimes seminar in Ann Arbor Michigan, and ---- that was TAME compared to some of the stuff I'm finding.... (Jeffery Dahmer was part of that study)