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Yeah he did and he deserves all the criticism he gets for it. OTOH hypocrites like you want to exonerate Hillary and her cronies for how they pushed that same falsehood.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostTrump Vindicated: Report Says Obama Government Wiretapped Trump CampaignAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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lol obama was the first birther so who cares. he shouldn't lie about himself if he doesn't want others to believe that lie"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo Trump was right, they were being Wiretapped.
Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostTrump wasn't being wiretapped. It had nothing to do with his presidential campaign.
Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostTrump wasn't being wiretapped. It had nothing to do with his presidential campaign.
Paul Manafort was being wiretapped over the course of years because of his close association with Russian state interests.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Actually, the CIA and British were listening in on suspected Russian spies and ran across interceptions of Trump campaign officials talking turkey with Russian nationals.
Since the CIA can not do surveillance of US citizens domestically, the matter was handed over to the FBI which presented the evidence to a FISA court, where a judge agreed there was probable cause a criminal matter might be unfolding.
Perfectly legal procedure.
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut Manafort was part of the presidential campaign, and he lived in Trump Tower. The fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.Last edited by JimL; 09-20-2017, 07:27 PM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThe fact is, no matter how you try and parse it, Trump was correct.
Story says 1) the FBI 2) legally 3) tapped Manafort's phone."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by JimL View PostManafort was under investigation long before he was even in the Trump campaign and the fact that he was being wiretapped had nothing to do with Trump or Trump tower even if Trump was picked up in those communications with Manafort. Also, don't you ever ask yourself how and why it was that P. Manafort, someone with known ties to russia and russian backed Ukraine leadership, ended up running the Trump campaign?
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what is it with Trump and Russia?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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