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  • Attorney for teen suspended after opposing trans ideology says religious freedom 'essentially dead' in Canada

    Attorney James Kitchen predicted 'the gender and sexuality issue' will lead to clashes between Christians and Canadian government

    A lawyer for a Canadian Catholic high school student who was reportedly suspended for opposing transgender ideology said his client's legal battle shows freedom in the country is quickly eroding.

    "I think it's representative of where the culture is at, where society is at, and where our government institutions are at up here," attorney James Kitchen told Fox News Digital of the case against 16-year-old Josh Alexander.

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/attorn...ly-dead-canada
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • It continues down the slope.

      However, the true Church will be purified through persecution.


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      • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

        My problem with assisted suicide/aid to dying/whatever you want to call it is what starts as voluntary becomes involuntary. It's the old slippery slope. Of course, if you say that, they'll just respond it won't happen in this case. I'm sorry, but I've seen too many things go down the slope to believe it won't happen.

        First, it will be voluntary. Then the stories will start coming out about family pressuring old people to go. (I seem to remember a story to that effect from the Netherlands a few years ago.) Then there will be some panel for those incapable or have no family to make the decision for them. Finally, there will be some standard (say amount of medical expenses in your life) that when you reach it, the end. If this is followed, we'll reach Logan's Run as has been mentioned.

        I admit I'm biased on this. My health isn't the greatest and I'm expecting to be killed someday in a nursing room because I've just cost too much money to keep around any longer.
        This kind of thing is already happening. There is the case of Roger Foley for example.

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        • It just keeps getting worser and worser.

          Source: Canada moves one step closer to euthanizing CHILDREN: Critics slam 'reckless' and 'horrible' panel urging government to pass law allowing minors under 18 with terminal illnesses to die by assisted suicide

          • Top government panel recommends assisted suicides for 'mature minors'
          • Law could change as soon as this year; critics slam a 'reckless' proposal
          • Canada already has the world's most expansive program of assisted dying



          Campaigners have slammed as 'reckless' and 'horrible' a plan by a Canadian parliamentary committee to expand the country's assisted-suicide program to terminally sick children.

          They told DailyMail.com that sick and disabled kids could soon be joining the roughly 10,000 adults who end their lives each year by state-sanctioned euthanasia in the world's most permissive such program.

          In its long-awaited report, the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) recommended that 'mature minors' whose deaths were 'reasonably foreseeable' could access assisted suicide, even without parental consent.

          The report and its 23 recommendations will be discussed in the House of Commons in the coming months and could prompt revisions of Canada's assisted dying laws as soon as this year.

          'I think it's horrible,' said Amy Hasbrouck, who campaigns against MAiD for the group Not Dead Yet.

          'Teenagers are not in a good position to judge whether to commit suicide or not. Any teenagers with a disability, who's constantly told their life is useless and pitiful, will be depressed, and of course they're going to want to die.'

          4aae2667-c47c-46ea-915c-5df4f8eef5c9.jpg
          There were more than 10,000 deaths by euthanasia in 2021, an increase of about a third from the previous year


          Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, another campaign outfit, said Canada had been on a dangerous 'slippery slope' to widespread assisted suicide since the law was introduced in 2016.

          'We said we were going to have safeguards and guardrails, but the next government can simply open it up further by making a decision — and that's exactly what's happening,' Schadenberg said.

          After hearing from some 150 witnesses and reviewing hundreds of briefs, the joint committee of Canadian politicians earlier this month concluded that children who could competently make decisions should have access to MAiD.

          Witnesses had told members that children were ill-equipped to manage such a weighty decision, that they were more vulnerable to external pressure than adults, and that there was no going back from an irreversible decision.

          Still, others noted that poorly Canadian children can already decide to stop receiving life-saving treatment for their condition, even when doing so hastens their death.

          Ultimately, members agreed that children with terminal illnesses, most likely aged between 14 and 17, could be influenced by many factors and that 'eligibility for MAiD should not be denied on the basis of age alone'.

          In their 138-page report, members said the procedure — typically a lethal injection administered by a doctor — should be available to 'mature minors … whose natural death is reasonably foreseeable.'

          They also called for more research into the experiences of minors in relation to assisted suicide and for an independent expert panel to investigate criminal issues around child access to MAiD.

          It remains unclear whether the Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would immediately push for expanded access to children. This month, ministers deferred by a year plans to extend MAiD to the mentally ill.

          Mike Schouten, director of advocacy for the Association for Reformed Political Action (ARPA), called the committee 'reckless' and urged members of parliament to ensure the 'committee's recommendation do not become law'.

          'There would be vigorous debate and hopefully, people would make the right decisions, although we don't have much faith in some of those institutions at the moment, considering our current government,' said Schouten.

          Schouten's son, Markus, was diagnosed with Ewing sarcoma in February 2021 and died just 15 months later, on May 29, 2022, aged 18, after multiple operations, chemotherapy and 25 rounds of radiation therapy.

          His father said an assisted suicide law for children would have told his son that caregivers had 'given up' on him.

          Appearing with his wife, Jennifer, Mr Schouten told the Canadian parliamentary committee: 'By giving some minors the right to request, you put all minors and their families in a position where they are obliged to consider.'

          Campaigners often highlight the case of Robert Latimer, a Saskatchewan farmer who was convicted of killing his 12-year-old daughter, Tracy, in 1993. He said it was a mercy killing because of the chronic pain linked to her severe cerebral palsy.

          Many Canadians support euthanasia and the campaign group Dying With Dignity says the procedure is 'driven by compassion, an end to suffering and discrimination and desire for personal autonomy.'

          But human rights advocates say the country's regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people, and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it.

          c71ab238-4c22-4f53-a644-94dca709b8e9.jpg
          The Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) recommended that 'mature minors'
          whose deaths were 'reasonably foreseeable' could access assisted suicide, even without parental consent


          Euthanasia, where doctors use drugs to kill patients, is legal in seven countries — Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand and Spain — plus several states in Australia.

          Other jurisdictions, including a growing number of US states, allow doctor-assisted suicide — in which patients take the lethal drug themselves, typically crushing up and drinking a lethal dose of pills prescribed by a doctor.

          In Canada, the two options are referred to as MAiD, though more than 99.9 percent of such deaths are euthanasia. There were more than 10,000 deaths by euthanasia in 2021, an increase of about a third from the previous year.

          Canada's road to allowing euthanasia began in 2015, when its highest court declared that outlawing assisted suicide deprived people of their dignity and autonomy. It gave national leaders a year to draft legislation.

          The resulting 2016 law legalized both euthanasia and assisted suicide for people aged 18 and over provided they met certain conditions: They had to have a serious, advanced condition, disease or disability that was causing suffering and their death was looming.

          The law was later amended to allow people who are not terminally ill to choose death, significantly broadening the number of eligible people. Critics say that change removed a key safeguard aimed at protecting people with potentially years or decades of life left.

          Today, any adult with a serious illness, disease or disability can seek help in dying.



          Source

          © Copyright Original Source



          Lately it seems that whenever the U.S. does something mind-numbingly stupid, Canuckistan steps forward and says "Hold my Molson and watch this."

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Dear Lord! Please come!


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            • I'm sure HA would love this idea.


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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                It just keeps getting worser and worser.

                Source: Canada moves one step closer to euthanizing CHILDREN: Critics slam 'reckless' and 'horrible' panel urging government to pass law allowing minors under 18 with terminal illnesses to die by assisted suicide

                • Top government panel recommends assisted suicides for 'mature minors'
                • Law could change as soon as this year; critics slam a 'reckless' proposal
                • Canada already has the world's most expansive program of assisted dying



                Campaigners have slammed as 'reckless' and 'horrible' a plan by a Canadian parliamentary committee to expand the country's assisted-suicide program to terminally sick children.

                They told DailyMail.com that sick and disabled kids could soon be joining the roughly 10,000 adults who end their lives each year by state-sanctioned euthanasia in the world's most permissive such program.

                In its long-awaited report, the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) recommended that 'mature minors' whose deaths were 'reasonably foreseeable' could access assisted suicide, even without parental consent.

                The report and its 23 recommendations will be discussed in the House of Commons in the coming months and could prompt revisions of Canada's assisted dying laws as soon as this year.

                'I think it's horrible,' said Amy Hasbrouck, who campaigns against MAiD for the group Not Dead Yet.

                'Teenagers are not in a good position to judge whether to commit suicide or not. Any teenagers with a disability, who's constantly told their life is useless and pitiful, will be depressed, and of course they're going to want to die.'

                4aae2667-c47c-46ea-915c-5df4f8eef5c9.jpg
                There were more than 10,000 deaths by euthanasia in 2021, an increase of about a third from the previous year


                Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, another campaign outfit, said Canada had been on a dangerous 'slippery slope' to widespread assisted suicide since the law was introduced in 2016.

                'We said we were going to have safeguards and guardrails, but the next government can simply open it up further by making a decision — and that's exactly what's happening,' Schadenberg said.

                After hearing from some 150 witnesses and reviewing hundreds of briefs, the joint committee of Canadian politicians earlier this month concluded that children who could competently make decisions should have access to MAiD.

                Witnesses had told members that children were ill-equipped to manage such a weighty decision, that they were more vulnerable to external pressure than adults, and that there was no going back from an irreversible decision.

                Still, others noted that poorly Canadian children can already decide to stop receiving life-saving treatment for their condition, even when doing so hastens their death.

                Ultimately, members agreed that children with terminal illnesses, most likely aged between 14 and 17, could be influenced by many factors and that 'eligibility for MAiD should not be denied on the basis of age alone'.

                In their 138-page report, members said the procedure — typically a lethal injection administered by a doctor — should be available to 'mature minors … whose natural death is reasonably foreseeable.'

                They also called for more research into the experiences of minors in relation to assisted suicide and for an independent expert panel to investigate criminal issues around child access to MAiD.

                It remains unclear whether the Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would immediately push for expanded access to children. This month, ministers deferred by a year plans to extend MAiD to the mentally ill.

                Mike Schouten, director of advocacy for the Association for Reformed Political Action (ARPA), called the committee 'reckless' and urged members of parliament to ensure the 'committee's recommendation do not become law'.

                'There would be vigorous debate and hopefully, people would make the right decisions, although we don't have much faith in some of those institutions at the moment, considering our current government,' said Schouten.

                Schouten's son, Markus, was diagnosed with Ewing sarcoma in February 2021 and died just 15 months later, on May 29, 2022, aged 18, after multiple operations, chemotherapy and 25 rounds of radiation therapy.

                His father said an assisted suicide law for children would have told his son that caregivers had 'given up' on him.

                Appearing with his wife, Jennifer, Mr Schouten told the Canadian parliamentary committee: 'By giving some minors the right to request, you put all minors and their families in a position where they are obliged to consider.'

                Campaigners often highlight the case of Robert Latimer, a Saskatchewan farmer who was convicted of killing his 12-year-old daughter, Tracy, in 1993. He said it was a mercy killing because of the chronic pain linked to her severe cerebral palsy.

                Many Canadians support euthanasia and the campaign group Dying With Dignity says the procedure is 'driven by compassion, an end to suffering and discrimination and desire for personal autonomy.'

                But human rights advocates say the country's regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people, and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it.

                c71ab238-4c22-4f53-a644-94dca709b8e9.jpg
                The Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) recommended that 'mature minors'
                whose deaths were 'reasonably foreseeable' could access assisted suicide, even without parental consent


                Euthanasia, where doctors use drugs to kill patients, is legal in seven countries — Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand and Spain — plus several states in Australia.

                Other jurisdictions, including a growing number of US states, allow doctor-assisted suicide — in which patients take the lethal drug themselves, typically crushing up and drinking a lethal dose of pills prescribed by a doctor.

                In Canada, the two options are referred to as MAiD, though more than 99.9 percent of such deaths are euthanasia. There were more than 10,000 deaths by euthanasia in 2021, an increase of about a third from the previous year.

                Canada's road to allowing euthanasia began in 2015, when its highest court declared that outlawing assisted suicide deprived people of their dignity and autonomy. It gave national leaders a year to draft legislation.

                The resulting 2016 law legalized both euthanasia and assisted suicide for people aged 18 and over provided they met certain conditions: They had to have a serious, advanced condition, disease or disability that was causing suffering and their death was looming.

                The law was later amended to allow people who are not terminally ill to choose death, significantly broadening the number of eligible people. Critics say that change removed a key safeguard aimed at protecting people with potentially years or decades of life left.

                Today, any adult with a serious illness, disease or disability can seek help in dying.



                Source

                © Copyright Original Source



                Lately it seems that whenever the U.S. does something mind-numbingly stupid, Canuckistan steps forward and says "Hold my Molson and watch this."
                Why does it also seem to be these days, the liberals are in a race to see who can reach the bottom first?"
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                  Why does it also seem to be these days, the liberals are in a race to see who can reach the bottom first?"
                  I've said it before and I'll say it again, both sides seem determined to take us to hell in a handbasket -- the left has found the express elevator whereas the right is content to take the scenic route.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • We are under the judgment of Romans 1. God has given us over to reprobate minds. We accept the unacceptable and slide further down into the pit every time we do so.


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                    • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                      We are under the judgment of Romans 1. God has given us over to reprobate minds. We accept the unacceptable and slide further down into the pit every time we do so.
                      I agree with you and rogue06 .
                      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                      "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                      • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                        We are under the judgment of Romans 1. God has given us over to reprobate minds. We accept the unacceptable and slide further down into the pit every time we do so.
                        This world reminds me of the days before Noah. Surely hit can't be long now before Jesus comes.

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                        • I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • So it seems a 2000 page independent judicial report on the Trucker Convoy has found that Justin Trudeau's actions in using the Emergencies Act were justified. Maybe Mossy owes Justin an apology?

                            The report substantially blames the Ottawa police for going too easy on the protesters and for generally being useless and more concerned with doing what their public relations firm told them than policing.

                            A few interesting tidbits from the details of the report:
                            - The protesting truckers were funded by being given envelopes stuffed with $2000. There's no money trail regarding where this cash was coming from.
                            - A Canadian millionaire was paying for hotel rooms for the leaders during the protests.
                            - The first idea for it was floated on TikTok by a Canadian trucker
                            - The convoy leaders didn't understand the basic fact that it was the US, not Canada, that was requiring the vaccinations for border crossings
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              So it seems a 2000 page independent judicial report on the Trucker Convoy has found that Justin Trudeau's actions in using the Emergencies Act were justified. Maybe Mossy owes Justin an apology?

                              The report substantially blames the Ottawa police for going too easy on the protesters and for generally being useless and more concerned with doing what their public relations firm told them than policing.

                              A few interesting tidbits from the details of the report:
                              - The protesting truckers were funded by being given envelopes stuffed with $2000. There's no money trail regarding where this cash was coming from.
                              - A Canadian millionaire was paying for hotel rooms for the leaders during the protests.
                              - The first idea for it was floated on TikTok by a Canadian trucker
                              - The convoy leaders didn't understand the basic fact that it was the US, not Canada, that was requiring the vaccinations for border crossings
                              No. No apologies for the Little Dictator. I watched some of the testimony from the commission investigating. Lies all the way through from Trudeau and his cronies.

                              Press Progress is one of your leftist propaganda machines, and I don't trust anything they say. Nor do I trust anything that you bring up.








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                              • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                                Press Progress is one of your leftist propaganda machines, and I don't trust anything they say.
                                Well they are reporting details from the report. It's not like you can't read that document if you wanted to double-check them.

                                I guess you prefer to continue gullibly believing your fake news source Rebel Propaganda?
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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