Evidence of covid death OVERcounts?

[seanD]

The fact that they have now identified two problems with the J&J and Astrazenica vaccines and put out warnings shows that they are keeping track of side effects and taking them seriously. Which to me, means that all of the nonsense people like Mike Whitney are spewing about thousands of deaths and so on from the other vaccines is just that, nonsense. If there were that many deaths or even serious side effects from them, they would have taken them seriously and put out warnings.

How do you know this is not Moderna and Pfizer attempting to knock out their competition? In fact, I could believe a conspiracy like that before I could believe vaccines are being used to reduce the population. Big pharma cutthroat activity among companies driven by pure greed is as natural as the rising sun.

[Sparko]

How do you know this is not Moderna and Pfizer attempting to knock out their competition? In fact, I could believe a conspiracy like that before I could believe vaccines are being used to reduce the population. Big pharma cutthroat activity among companies driven by pure greed is as natural as the rising sun.

How would they do that? These are reported side effects from hospitals/doctors giving the shots and are apparently being checked out and confirmed by the CDC and FDA.

[seanD]

How would they do that? These are reported side effects from hospitals/doctors giving the shots and are apparently being checked out and confirmed by the CDC and FDA.

I admittedly don't know the detailed mechanics of how these things are reported, but if I were to guess, these reports don't get out to the general public and the press (or at least taken seriously and not blocked on social media) accept through FDC filters. If that's correct, the fact you have FDC involved is all I need to know that corporate greed and collusion is absolutely plausible. FDC history of corruption is a known fact even in MSM circles.

Note that I'm not making an argument for this, just pointing out that MW believing they're covering up the side effects and the idea they're trying to knock out their competition by highlighting the side effects of their competitor is not necessarily mutually exclusive. Greed and corporate collusion could be at play here.

[seanD]

I admittedly don't know the detailed mechanics of how these things are reported, but if I were to guess, these reports don't get out to the general public and the press (or at least taken seriously and not blocked on social media) accept through FDC filters. If that's correct, the fact you have FDC involved is all I need to know that corporate greed and collusion is absolutely plausible. FDC history of corruption is a known fact even in MSM circles.

Note that I'm not making an argument for this, just pointing out that MW believing they're covering up the side effects and the idea they're trying to knock out their competition by highlighting the side effects of their competitor is not necessarily mutually exclusive. Greed and corporate collusion could be at play here.

Of course I meant FDA

[Sparko]

I admittedly don't know the detailed mechanics of how these things are reported, but if I were to guess, these reports don't get out to the general public and the press (or at least taken seriously and not blocked on social media) accept through FDC filters. If that's correct, the fact you have FDC involved is all I need to know that corporate greed and collusion is absolutely plausible. FDC history of corruption is a known fact even in MSM circles.

Note that I'm not making an argument for this, just pointing out that MW believing they're covering up the side effects and the idea they're trying to knock out their competition by highlighting the side effects of their competitor is not necessarily mutually exclusive. Greed and corporate collusion could be at play here.

You mean FDA? Seems doubtful.

[Roy]

How do you know this is not Moderna and Pfizer attempting to knock out their competition?

Because the warnings are on the UK government website, and are based on real cases reported to the UK government.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I believe on the number of nursing home deaths and how they were reported. Again, not sure if it will actually provide results or just quietly disappear.

I heard on today's news that the DOJ investigation in nursing home deaths in NY (and apparently other states) has been dropped.

[seanD]

I heard on today's news that the DOJ investigation in nursing home deaths in NY (and apparently other states) has been dropped.

I thought this was a sure sign they were coming after him. MM was right.

[Thoughtful Monk]

I thought this was a sure sign they were coming after him. MM was right.

Like Republicans, Democrats protect their own.

[NorrinRadd]

I thought this was a sure sign they were coming after him. MM was right.

PA's Governor Fenris gets off the hook too.

[seanD]

Like Republicans, Democrats protect their own.

I didn't see very many Reps protecting Trump, but I guess I get your point. In fact, it's one lone Rep putting Fauci on the hot-seat, while the other subservient Reps either do nothing or just kowtow to the Dem elites.

[Mountain Man]

The CDC has quietly announced new testing guidelines that all but admit that China flu cases were being dramatically overcounted because the previous PCR test was not accurate enough to differentiate between the China flu and the regular flu. From the announcement:

"CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses."

One wonders if this apparently more accurate test, which will naturally result in a reduction in the number of reported China flu cases, will be used as "proof" that the experimental vaccinations are working.

[Sparko]

The CDC has quietly announced new testing guidelines that all but admit that China flu cases were being dramatically overcounted because the previous PCR test was not accurate enough to differentiate between the China flu and the regular flu. From the announcement:

"CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses."

One wonders if this apparently more accurate test, which will naturally result in a reduction in the number of reported China flu cases, will be used as "proof" that the experimental vaccinations are working.

That is talking about one particular real time test that came out in February 2020.

[rogue06]

I thought this was a sure sign they were coming after him. MM was right.

He's good buddies with old Joe. He even expected to be his Attorney General, but the scandals quashed that idea.

[Mountain Man]

MM was right.

Say it again!

But, no, it's really just more a case of being cynical, and when it comes to politics, us cynics are, unfortunately, rarely disappointed. Trust me, I would much rather be wrong about this sort of thing.