Prince Philip has died aged 99, Buckingham Palace announces

[CivilDiscourse]

He was a racist in a largely racist family. Do not forget Elizabeth's uncle Edward VIII the Nazi sympathiser and Philip's own brothers-in-law who were Nazis. His mother seems to have been the exception .

His mother-in-law was a racist old drunk despite being regularly depicted in the British popular press as the nation's favourite granny.

How many of your ancestors WERE not just sympathizers, but card carrying members?

[seer]

But he was talking about wiping out the global population; echoes of that "population control" obsession you hear from elites like Gates and Philip (and btw, Philips obviously comes from that era when eugenics was a sweeping movement across the western world).

That's more than just not being PC. That's what you'd normally call being a sociopath if it were anyone else other than a royal elitist.

Well no, he was a nut job...

[Ronson]

An rich old man who has spent most of his life in luxury and idleness dies. The human aspect is sad - an old lady losing her husband but so many couples, young and old, suffer that tragedy.

I suppose the British tax payers can be grateful they have one less idle scrounger to pay for out of the public purse.

I daresay it will also shift the populist gaze from Northern Ireland.

You know what they say about broken clocks ...

[Gondwanaland]

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I figured we'd see a headline like this soon. He looked absolutely terrible a week or two ago when he got out of the hospital. Didn't look like he was going to survive much longer.

[kiwimac]

Rip.

[DesertBerean]

I dunno how much luxury he had after being exiled from Greece. I guess it's all relative. And idle? Um, no.

And was it a lie that his mother Princess Alice protected some Jews from the Nazis....and was named Righteous among the Nations and allowed to be interred in Israel?

Prince Phillip was a real abrasive guy, true. Rude. I grant that. But I don't get why all the criticisms about all the other family members even before he's buried when he wasn't responsible for their behavior. Or am I missing something about his culpability?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I dunno how much luxury he had after being exiled from Greece. I guess it's all relative. And idle? Um, no.

And was it a lie that his mother Princess Alice protected some Jews from the Nazis....and was named Righteous among the Nations and allowed to be interred in Israel?

Prince Phillip was a real abrasive guy, true. Rude. I grant that. But I don't get why all the criticisms about all the other family members even before he's buried when he wasn't responsible for their behavior. Or am I missing something about his culpability?

After his father's abdication Philip certainly wasn't living in a 2 up 2 down Yorkshire miner's cottage or a Manchester tenement slum. Being impoverished for those sorts of people has a different connotation from real poverty. He had a messed up childhood. That affects anyone. Nor am I sure that the awful school in Scotland he attended [and to which he sent his son] did him a great deal of good psychologically or emotionally.

The Anglo-German royals produced [as does every very large blood related group] a mixture of individuals some more able intellectually than others. Frederick the Great and Prince Albert come to mind along with Albert's daughter Vicky [mother of the Kaiser]. Unfortunately none of that passed on to Philip.

His mother, as I noted, was an exception in many ways but appears to have been a source of embarrassment for other members of the family because she did not "conform".

I think many Brits [and certainly many Germans] regard Philip [and his brood] as nothing but an anachronistic group of hangers-on who still take money from the public purse despite the fact that their own private fortunes [in his wife's case probably billions] could easily pay for their lifestyles. The interference by both Brenda and Brian [aka the Queen and Charles] over emendations of draft legislation that may impact adversely upon them and/or their financial concerns has also raised serious concerns about just how much power this unelected and unaccountable family still wields.

At the end of the day the simple fact is that a very old rich man has died. Human sympathy goes to his widow because to lose a partner is a terrible thing.

However, that really is all there is to it.

He did not have a "life of service" as the British press is constantly maintaining.

He did absolutely nothing except help [along with his wife] to produce another dysfunctional generation in a family that has been dysfunctional for generations.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You know what they say about broken clocks ...

This is one topic on which you and I are in total agreement!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Well no, he was a nut job...

An arrogant not overly academically able man. Just right for the affected petit bourgeois life-style he married into.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

How many of your ancestors WERE not just sympathizers, but card carrying members?

Ah the old canard that every German was a Nazi sympathiser or a Party member.

[CivilDiscourse]

Ah the old canard that every German was a Nazi sympathiser or a Party member.

That was not a denial.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

That was not a denial.

Do you post details of your private life to unknown individuals on an internet board?

[CivilDiscourse]

Do you post details of your private life to unknown individuals on an internet board?

Sounds like I hit a sore spot. Glass houses and stones .

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Sounds like I hit a sore spot. Glass houses and stones .

As I recall you did not care for references to what was deemed to be your former avatar that you had employed on another internet board.

Yet you expect me to write to you about my personal family history.

Either you are holding to one rule for you and another for me [hypocrisy] or you are a rather prurient "nosey-parker".

Which is it?

[CivilDiscourse]

As I recall you did not care for references to what was deemed to be your former avatar that you had employed on another internet board.

You might need to prove that. I have never acknowledged your guesses as to who I was, frauline.

Yet you expect me to write to you about my personal family history.

It seems you want to condemn someone for their ancestor's beliefs. I figured you would want to be judged by the same studies you judge others. Given how heavily you are now dodging this, I'm going to assume it's to avoid admitting something you are not so proud of, and then face the same criticism that you level at others.