Biden says minorities aren't smart enough to go online

[Stoic]

His quote made it clear that he did not want blacks to go to the same school as "my children" and then listed the reason for his not wanting it. You can't spin that away even if you use a tornado to help.

The more I read about what Biden said back in the '70s, the less I like him. (But maybe he's changed.) The following quote could have been written by some of his fiercest critics in this thread.

“The new integration plans being offered are really just quota systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school. That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with,” Biden said. “What it says is, ‘In order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes, and dark skin to be able to learn anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son.’ That’s racist! Who the hell do we think we are, that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?”

[Cow Poke]

The more I read about what Biden said back in the '70s, the less I like him. (But maybe he's changed.) The following quote could have been written by some of his fiercest critics in this thread.

“The new integration plans being offered are really just quota systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school. That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with,” Biden said. “What it says is, ‘In order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes, and dark skin to be able to learn anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son.’ That’s racist! Who the hell do we think we are, that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?”

Biden was one of them thar white supremacists the left hates?

[Diogenes]

And as you've been told a million times, when one starts at the very back, it is only rarely possible one can win. Some people can and do - but they are the exceptional ones. One can not discount the environment one grows up in and its effect not only on your skills but your whole outlook on life. It doesn't matter who you are, if your community disparages advanced education, fewer will get advanced education. If it is full of crime, it is more likely you will become a criminal. And the legacy of racism and slavery in this country that has created roadblocks for black people that do not exist for white people (on average) is the cause. Just the statistic I quoted. Wealth and prosperity of the parents - statistically - has a direct bearing on the wealth and prosperity of the children. And the average black child starts with 1/2 the income and 1/7th the wealth. And that does not take into account statistically higher crime, statistically poorer schools and statistically more likelihood to come from a single parent family. There is no getting around it - our society and its current structure BREEDS a continuance of the disparity - even with the fact that there are helps out there targeting those same groups. So far, what has been done simply has not been sufficient to remove that imbalance.

If it was, those numbers would be different.

Most of white wealth is concentrated in the 10th Percentile, as I've already showed you. It is not the prerogative of the government to create equality of outcome. It is though the prerogative of the government to create equality of outcome.

There's actually a homework gap where blacks study less. There was a study done by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston called The Color of Wealth in Boston and it showed the median net worth for U.S. Blacks was $8 while the median net wealth for Caribbean Blacks was $12,000. While both are vastly smaller than the old wealth of white Bostonians of $247,500, it highlights that there is disparity within the Black community of Boston that cannot be accounted for by race or systemic .[racism].
Here's more commentary:

(Edit) Here is Coleman Hughes at greater length.

Thomas Sowell speaks here about affirmative action.

Here is Thomas Sowell with Dave Rubin talking about system racism.

[mossrose]

The more I read about what Biden said back in the '70s, the less I like him. (But maybe he's changed.) The following quote could have been written by some of his fiercest critics in this thread.

“The new integration plans being offered are really just quota systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school. That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with,” Biden said. “What it says is, ‘In order for your child with curly black hair, brown eyes, and dark skin to be able to learn anything, he needs to sit next to my blond-haired, blue-eyed son.’ That’s racist! Who the hell do we think we are, that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?”

So, you're calling us all racists? In a sort of backhanded way?

[seanD]

So, you're calling us all racists? In a sort of backhanded way?

He's actually throwing me off. I thought at first he was being sarcastic, now I'm not sure what's going on.

[Stoic]

So, you're calling us all racists? In a sort of backhanded way?

I'm saying that these two claims are awfully similar:

1) Claiming that minority kids have to have white kids in their schools in order to learn is racist.
2) Claiming that minorities could use help in learning how to register for vaccinations online is racist.

[kiwimac]

What a load of nonsense Republicans spout!

[mossrose]

I'm saying that these two claims are awfully similar:

1) Claiming that minority kids have to have white kids in their schools in order to learn is racist.
2) Claiming that minorities could use help in learning how to register for vaccinations online is racist.

Well, I've never said either. And it might be nice if you were more specific about your own comments, because that sure looked like you were accusing a lot of people on this site of being as racist as Biden is.

[rogue06]

Because racists use that as an excuse to do nothing about the inequities resulting from those 300 years of suppression.

So you're one of these two wrongs make a right sort of guys, huh? Punish people who didn't do anything to "get even" for what took place in the past^[1]. Just ignore what King said in one of the most famous and significant speeches in American history. Hmm. Maybe MLK was a racist since he just wanted equality and not "pay back."




1. And my ancestors didn't do anything to be made up for. Nearly arrived after the Civil War and lived in Minnesota, Iowa and the Dakotas, where there were hardly any blacks to have even discriminated against. My parents grew up in farm country in the Dakotas. My mother even saw a black person until she was 18 years old visiting Minneapolis/St. Paul (of course where she lived the nearest neighbor was between a quarter and half mile away). And the ones who got here before the Civil War fought for (and bled for) the North within a decade of arriving here.

[Gondwanaland]

The willful oppression of an entire race for 300 years is not 'being dealt a bad hand'. It has had massive consequences then and now. And those consequences still have not been resolved. As I pointed out, the average wealth of black people in the US is 1/7 that of white people, and the average income <1/2. This statistical reality tells us clearly and unequivocally the legacy of that 300 years has not yet been done away with. And yes, we as a people are ALL responsible for doing what is necessary to make it right.

Plenty of people have been oppressed for centuries. Jewish people got nearly exterminated not too long ago. The majority of the world's populace 300 years ago was oppressed, other than a few kings and emperors and their courts/lords.

I have no responsibility to 'make it right', nor do white people.

I don't care what the average wealth or income of someone is. If they want to better their life, they've got to do it themselves, not sit around on government doles, demanding money for something that happened to their great-grand-daddy.

No, we as a people are NOT responsible to make anything 'right'. Only responsible for ensuring freedom and opportunity, which is already the case here in the US.

[rogue06]

That is not what he says MM. And if you bothered to listen to the video you would know that. If you did listen to the video then you do know it.

The issue here is that there is no possible way that what is said on that video can be cast what you say above. I do wish you could be honest enough to simply admit the truth on that point.

That was a quote. What you provide is what you wanted for him to mean.

[rogue06]

The willful oppression of an entire race for 300 years is not 'being dealt a bad hand'. It has had massive consequences then and now. And those consequences still have not been resolved. As I pointed out, the average wealth of black people in the US is 1/7 that of white people, and the average income <1/2. This statistical reality tells us clearly and unequivocally the legacy of that 300 years has not yet been done away with. And yes, we as a people are ALL responsible for doing what is necessary to make it right.

And we have another advocate for two wrongs make a right. People should get even for what was done to their ancestors in the past, huh? I once read somewhere that "The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son," but I guess you know better

[rogue06]

You keep droning on about the slavery thing, and I just can't take what you're saying seriously. You started out okay, but then went into that slavery spiel. What you were at first describing is a vicious feedback loop. Yes, the circumstances suck for a lot of black folks, but again, government can't change that (in fact, in more than enough cases, it makes things worse).

It's his way of distracting attention away from old Joe's condescending, patronizing racism.

[rogue06]

Most of white wealth is concentrated in the 10th Percentile, as I've already showed you. It is not the prerogative of the government to create equality of outcome. It is though the prerogative of the government to create equality of outcome.

There's actually a homework gap where blacks study less. There was a study done by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston called The Color of Wealth in Boston and it showed the median net worth for U.S. Blacks was $8 while the median net wealth for Caribbean Blacks was $12,000. While both are vastly smaller than the old wealth of white Bostonians of $247,500, it highlights that there is disparity within the Black community of Boston that cannot be accounted for by race or systemic .[racism].
Here's more commentary:

(Edit) Here is Coleman Hughes at greater length.

Thomas Sowell speaks here about affirmative action.

Here is Thomas Sowell with Dave Rubin talking about system racism.

The former editor of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Cynthia Tucker is a black, very liberal woman. One thing she brought up in multiple columns was how her sister and her were harassed by their peers for "acting white" when they were growing up. What she meant by that was doing their homework and speaking correct English -- things their mother insisted upon.

[Diogenes]

I'm saying that these two claims are awfully similar:

1) Claiming that minority kids have to have white kids in their schools in order to learn is racist.
2) Claiming that minorities could use help in learning how to register for vaccinations online is racist.

I guess Biden is becoming racist in his old age. Reading the transcript, I agree with him.