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ARMED protest are planned in all 50 state capitals and DC

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    For BLM, the goal was to stop police violence, it originated from an oppressed demographic, and the violence came from unorganized anarchists. For the capitol rally, the goal was to end our democracy, it originated from the dominant demographic, and the violence came from organized terrorists. They're very different circumstances.
    Boy, you sure can whitewash things, can't you? The BLM violence came from way more than anarchists. The looting was not by anarchists. The burning and mayhem was not exclusively anarchists. The tearing down public statues was not anarchists. The BLM fueled mobs, while believing themselves to be protesting rampant unchecked police brutality, were operating on a false narrative. The Capitol rally's goal, in the eyes of the protesters, was to PRESERVE democracy in making sure the election was not stolen. Whether you agree with their motives or not, their motive was not to end our Democracy. Originating from a "dominant" demographic is immaterial. And the violence was absolutely not organized.

    But wrong is wrong, and destroying property that isn't yours is wrong, regardless of the reason. The two protests are basically the same, and to hypocritically excuse one over the other is just stupid.

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  • whag
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    For BLM, the goal was to stop police violence, it originated from an oppressed demographic, and the violence came from unorganized anarchists. For the capitol rally, the goal was to end our democracy, it originated from the dominant demographic, and the violence came from organized terrorists. They're very different circumstances.
    Specifically, it stemmed from a single lie repeated continually. The most massive election fraud in U.S. history took place. It's hard to see they had any other choice.

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  • Psychic Missile
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    Leftist support for armed riots this past Summer and automagically decrying them when they happen on the right.
    For BLM, the goal was to stop police violence, it originated from an oppressed demographic, and the violence came from unorganized anarchists. For the capitol rally, the goal was to end our democracy, it originated from the dominant demographic, and the violence came from organized terrorists. They're very different circumstances.

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  • oxmixmudd
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    Leftist support for armed riots this past Summer and automagically decrying them when they happen on the right.
    You are conflating support for the cause of the protests - the unjust killing of black people by police - and 'support for armed riots'. It gets messy trying to navigate the difference, and there were many that indeed went too far - but this just isn't that. This is insurrection against the Federal government. And that is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. It is far more dangerous to the country as a whole - and it needs to be dealt with independend of these other issues, otherwise the will and effort necessary to put it to rest will be diluted.

    It really is time to work with your 'enemy' to defeat a much larger common enemy to ALL the American people - Republican OR Democrat. Trump is no longer your friend or my friend. He has now become an enemy to all of us by choosing this path.
    Last edited by oxmixmudd; 01-12-2021, 01:20 PM.

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  • oxmixmudd
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    I didn't say that. But that is exactly what the liberals did during the riots of the summer.

    I just think feeding into the extremists paranoia only serves to make them more paranoid and angry. They will think "Aha! This proves the democrats are trying to steal the election and shutting us up!" - so if they are worried about armed riots, that would only serve to increase the chances they occur, not lessen tensions. Just let Trump finish his term and be done with it. Stop banning competitor apps. Stop banning conservatives who have not done anything wrong. Stop the insane rhetoric accusing all trump supporters of being terrorists.
    sparko - the 'Trump militia' as it were are using those 'banned apps' to plan further acts of violence. Those supporting them with technical services had to pull the plug. anything else would be completely negligent behavior on their part. The blame lies squarely on those using the platforms to try to overthrow our government and the platforms that were not taking action to stop them.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    What hypocrisy?
    Leftist support for armed riots this past Summer and automagically decrying them when they happen on the right.

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  • Psychic Missile
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    Hypocrisy is never a non sequitur
    What hypocrisy?

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  • eider
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    I find this report a bit fishy. All 50 states? Seriously?

    I suspect this deep-state announcement is exaggerated for political effect.
    Would you say that the FBI is biased towards the democrats or just a detached service?

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  • Psychic Missile
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    Well, truthfully I fully expect you to stir the pot. You attitude seems to be right there with the rest of the people in this country who are either so lacking in self-awareness or common-sense that they are feeding the fire instead of quenching it.
    Deplatforming terrorists is demonstrably better than doing nothing and it's concerning that you're so defensive about extremist counter-measures to the point you resort to personal attacks. This sort of discourse is emblematic of why Civics should be shut down.
    Last edited by Psychic Missile; 01-12-2021, 01:04 PM.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    That's quite the non sequitor.
    Hypocrisy is never a non sequitur

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    Far right extremism has been our country's greatest terroristic threat for years now and conservative rhetoric has been doing enough flame fanning that avoiding escalation by holding back defensive measures would, if anything, be permissive of paranoia and anger. Deplatforming extremists does, in fact, suppress them. Coloring Parler's delisting/suspension and related bannings as silencing conservative voices is taking ownership of those who have done wrong as representative of conservatism and the decision to selectively utilize deplatforming shows a greater concern for differentiation on the part of the tech companies.
    Well, truthfully I fully expect you to stir the pot. You attitude seems to be right there with the rest of the people in this country who are either so lacking in self-awareness or common-sense that they are feeding the fire instead of quenching it.

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  • whag
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    It apparently is the very unfortunate consequence for the four years you guys have been spewing forth hate and contempt.

    Remember how you guys were always trying to "understand" the violence of the left because "they're just trying to be heard"?
    That’s an obvious finger point and deflection. The least you could do is acknowledge the role of a president who lied about the greatest political crime in U.S. political history and expected that to have no consequences. You should be mad at him that he’s been a jackass about literally everything. He downplayed his role in inviting all his investigations and inquiries.

    I’m coming from the perspective of having some hope in this guy being a dignified president, not the nightmare that gave his most shrill and annoying critics legitimacy.

    Those protesters, those embarrassing sycophants, should be angry at the guy who duped them not Pence who maintained the only dignity that will ever be associated with that administration.


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  • Psychic Missile
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

    I didn't say that. But that is exactly what the liberals did during the riots of the summer.

    I just think feeding into the extremists paranoia only serves to make them more paranoid and angry. They will think "Aha! This proves the democrats are trying to steal the election and shutting us up!" - so if they are worried about armed riots, that would only serve to increase the chances they occur, not lessen tensions. Just let Trump finish his term and be done with it. Stop banning competitor apps. Stop banning conservatives who have not done anything wrong. Stop the insane rhetoric accusing all trump supporters of being terrorists.
    Far right extremism has been our country's greatest terroristic threat for years now and conservative rhetoric has been doing enough flame fanning that avoiding escalation by holding back defensive measures would, if anything, be permissive of paranoia and anger. Deplatforming extremists does, in fact, suppress them. Coloring Parler's delisting/suspension and related bannings as silencing conservative voices is taking ownership of those who have done wrong as representative of conservatism and the decision to selectively utilize deplatforming shows a greater concern for differentiation on the part of the tech companies.

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  • Psychic Missile
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    That sure was the goal of the BLM movement this past Summer...
    That's quite the non sequitor.

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  • Sparko
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    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

    Acquiescing to extremists brings the country together?
    I didn't say that. But that is exactly what the liberals did during the riots of the summer.

    I just think feeding into the extremists paranoia only serves to make them more paranoid and angry. They will think "Aha! This proves the democrats are trying to steal the election and shutting us up!" - so if they are worried about armed riots, that would only serve to increase the chances they occur, not lessen tensions. Just let Trump finish his term and be done with it. Stop banning competitor apps. Stop banning conservatives who have not done anything wrong. Stop the insane rhetoric accusing all trump supporters of being terrorists.

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