ARMED protest are planned in all 50 state capitals and DC

[CivilDiscourse]

You were so hot and bothered about Trump supporters rioting, and yet it's liberals who are continuing their swath of destruction.

How does that crow taste?

Remember, one incident defines a group, the other group's incidents are isolated and should not be used to tar them all.

[Mountain Man]

As in the title. Even if Trumps presidency might be nearing a close - his legacy of chaos and destruction is rising to a feverish pitch.

You were so hot and bothered about Trump supporters rioting, and yet it's liberals who are continuing their swath of destruction.

How does that crow taste?

[Mountain Man]

Since their buddy Biden is in office and the radicals are still rioting, burning and looting in Portland, Seattle and Denver, I hope the liberals can now admit that Antifa and BLM are just a bunch of thugs. They are not after justice, just chaos.

Maybe China Joe could have spared a few of those 25,000 National Guardsman to protect Democrat cities since they were clearly unneeded at the inauguration where Joe gave a speech to a field of flags.

[Sparko]

This is amusing. One antifa's graffiti window message is destroyed a second window-bashing antifa. Why would anyone still want to live in Portland?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1352042522868998144

Since their buddy Biden is in office and the radicals are still rioting, burning and looting in Portland, Seattle and Denver, I hope the liberals can now admit that Antifa and BLM are just a bunch of thugs. They are not after justice, just chaos.

[Ronson]

This is amusing. One antifa's graffiti window message is destroyed a second window-bashing antifa. Why would anyone still want to live in Portland?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1352042522868998144

[Ronson]

The FBI is embarrassed because it was caught with its pants down on the 6th, so it is acting all "informed" now; trying to regain credibility. And the condition for this 50-state revolt is an event that is unlikely to happen, so the FBI can't lose when it doesn't take place.

But the very idea that a revolt is planned for 50 state capitals is a joke. I'll bet a million dollars that nothing or almost nothing happens on inauguration day.

Mostly right.

[Zara]

What? Did you respond to the wrong post?

oxmixmudd

Caught in the Matrix <---- he's trapped in the sin bin.

[Gondwanaland]

Apparently he was de-platformed, cancelled as it were, because ??

What? Did you respond to the wrong post?

[Zara]

So.... not much came of this.

But tonight we are seeing Biden's 'legacy of chaos and destruction' just beginning.

Antifa in Portland have begun rioting and have bashed in the windows of the DNC, saying that it's not Biden they want - they want 'revenge'.

I hear another antifa protest is beginning in Seattle, I doubt that will end without at least a decent amount of property damage either.

Apparently he was de-platformed, cancelled as it were, because ??

[Gondwanaland]

As in the title. Even if Trumps presidency might be nearing a close - his legacy of chaos and destruction is rising to a feverish pitch.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...tol/index.html


https://www.baltimoresun.com/politic...exy-story.html


https://patch.com/new-jersey/cinnami...-trump-rioting


There are plenty more. We must walk away from this insanity. We all most walk away from it.

So.... not much came of this.

But tonight we are seeing Biden's 'legacy of chaos and destruction' just beginning.

Antifa in Portland have begun rioting and have bashed in the windows of the DNC, saying that it's not Biden they want - they want 'revenge'.

I hear another antifa protest is beginning in Seattle, I doubt that will end without at least a decent amount of property damage either.

[Ronson]

If there are more people like this antifa guy running around, then perhaps there will be some rioting on inauguration day.

(link contains some profanity)

https://www.oann.com/antifa-activist...rter-arrested/

ETA I see there is already a thread dedicated to this. Sorry

[oxmixmudd]

You are allowing a handful of arguably corrupt states decide on a federal election. I think it is comparable. There needs to be a federal standard for federal elections. I don't want Al Capone from wherever electing my president.



On election night, I witnessed the Pennsylvania vote count freeze at around 9 pm CST. There was no explanation for it at the time. When I checked back around 7 am the next morning, it was still frozen - with Trump holding at around a 4-5% lead. That's when PA announced it switched over to counting mail-in ballots during the night. Why? No explanation. And Trump's lead then evaporated, with something like 99% of ballots going to Biden. If nothing else, that is an irregularity. And a statistical improbability.

I witnessed an election center with floor-length tablecloths covering tables in Georgia. For what purpose does anyone put floor-length tablecloths on tables? I only see it done in magic acts to hide the sleight of hand.



I'm not going to go through it all again for the millionth time.

There was fraud. How much, I don't know. It wasn't investigated. Could the amount of fraud have flipped the election? I don't know. It wasn't investigated.

Democrats got what they wanted, so they likely aren't ever going to investigate or reform.

It was - in fact - investigated. As can be seen if you'll watch the video as Sterling goes through a list of false accusations and presents the evidence they are false - uncovered by INVESTIGATIONS into their validity.

What you just posted is - unfortunately - you looking away from the evidence that has the potential to show you are wrong. That is the georgia state website and evidence presented by the REPUBLICAN administrators of their election. In the video Sterling acknowledges some fraud. But what is also clear is that every claim of sufficient fraud to change the result can be show to be grotesquely false, if there is any substance to it at all (e.g. the 'hidden suitcases'). AND IT WAS INVESTIGATED. And what the investigations show is there is nothing.

But taking the time to make the point is important - not all the readers of these posts are lost from reason or the influence of hard evidence.

[Ronson]

In 1963 racism was an observable ,adjective fact throughout the land. The issue was people thought it justified, not whether it existed.

You are allowing a handful of arguably corrupt states decide on a federal election. I think it is comparable. There needs to be a federal standard for federal elections. I don't want Al Capone from wherever electing my president.

We had Trump appointed organisations looking out for the election security, making great efforts to ensure what happened was consistent with both law and procedure. They reported no serious anomalies. In fact the reported the election was the most secure in history. The issue is that we have a population whose distrust of the democratic party was fed for four years and whipped into a distrust of anyone and everyone involved in officiating the election to the point that even when republican officials in state after state attested to the integrity of their elections people like you would not believe them.

On election night, I witnessed the Pennsylvania vote count freeze at around 9 pm CST. There was no explanation for it at the time. When I checked back around 7 am the next morning, it was still frozen - with Trump holding at around a 4-5% lead. That's when PA announced it switched over to counting mail-in ballots during the night. Why? No explanation. And Trump's lead then evaporated, with something like 99% of ballots going to Biden. If nothing else, that is an irregularity. And a statistical improbability.

I witnessed an election center with floor-length tablecloths covering tables in Georgia. For what purpose does anyone put floor-length tablecloths on tables? I only see it done in magic acts to hide the sleight of hand.

NO- YOU DIDN'T.

I'm not going to go through it all again for the millionth time.

There was fraud. How much, I don't know. It wasn't investigated. Could the amount of fraud have flipped the election? I don't know. It wasn't investigated.

Democrats got what they wanted, so they likely aren't ever going to investigate or reform.

[oxmixmudd]

What would you have said if in 1963 if Alabama judges said there were no civil rights violations in their state? Would it be similar to what you're saying now, that we should just trust the judges in states where irregularities occurred?

ronson - this isn't that. In 1963 racism was an observable ,adjective fact throughout the land. The issue was people thought it justified, not whether it existed.

This is a narcissistic psychopath who can't accept loss using millions of peopleS paranoia - that he himself fed for for 4 years - against the stability of the nation he swore to protect.

That's like saying "Every person we asked if they were corrupt said they weren't. Therefore there is a lot of very solid evidence that the election processes in these states where absolutely ethical and above board."

We had Trump appointed organisations looking out for the election security, making great efforts to ensure what happened was consistent with both law and procedure. They reported no serious anomalies. In fact the reported the election was the most secure in history. The issue is that we have a population whose distrust of the democratic party was fed for four years and whipped into a distrust of anyone and everyone involved in officiating the election to the point that even when republican officials in state after state attested to the integrity of their elections people like you would not believe them.

There were astounding irregularities. I saw them with my own eyes.

NO- YOU DIDN'T.

you saw hand picked video clips of events taken out of context and purported to be fraud by people trained through Trump's rhotoric to see demons in the trees as it were.

The Republican election officials in Georgia have gone to great lengths to create access to all the video aurrounding the purported irregularities in their state so that one can observe the fact, for instance, that the 'boxes pulled out from under the tables' had in fact been put there in full view of the cameras an hour before and that (IIRC) they were simply ballots already in process stored there because those people believed they were shutting down the count for the night.

there is nothing to these claims the president - and the conservative sources you feed on - has purposefully deceived the public with. It is that simple. You are the victim of a huge con by the president and his lawyers - a con that threatens the national security of the USA.

In this link: https://www.npr.org/2021/01/04/95332...-your-own-vote

There is a video and about 5 minutes in an discussion of the 'boxes under the table' begins. This is Republican official Gabriel Sterling detailing how these false claims were made about that video clip take out of its context

This link is to that spot in the video, but I encourage you to listen to all of it.

https://youtu.be/zLYugNRVLiQ?t=229

here is another discussion of what you think you saw from ga public broadcasting

https://www.gpb.org/news/2020/12/03/...aud-in-georgia

here is the link to the ga fact check which has a sequence of clips showing the context around what you think you saw.

https://securevotega.com/factcheck/

[Psychic Missile]

Property. The few dozen people who actually entered the Capitol were shown on video wandering the halls. A few of them actually destroyed stuff.

I'm asking about the motivation. Why would the people in either situation destroy property? My argument is that the difference in motivation is important when comparing them to each other.

Looters are too. The thousands and thousands of protesters at the Capitol were not there to destroy anything. A few nutters were.

And as to the term "insurrection"...

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In the abstract, they were there to destroy our democracy. In the literal sense. the destruction and violence, along with trespassing, are the reasons anyone cares about what would otherwise have been a peaceful protest, so the "thousands and thousands" are irrelevant to our discussion.

Definition of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government - MW

Seems apt to me, and plenty of coverage is using that word as well.

Watching interviews and social media posts from the looting in Richmond. The looters are opportunists, not anarchists.

So by your definition they are not looting to further the goals of BLM, whereas the violence at the capitol building happened to further the goal of toppling our democracy.