Arnold is a Buffoon ...

[Ronson]

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You distort and mock his words just like you do mine.

I'm proud to be in his company.

No, there's a difference, Ox. I don't consider you a phony.

[Ronson]

I still remember when Arnie wanted to enact legislation against Violent Video Games back when he was a Governor of California. After recalling his Filmography, I laughed for a good long while.

Personally, I'm still baffled that people even treat Hollywood-types as anything more than clueless degens who get overpaid to play make-believe. Sure, there's exceptions, but still... not the kind of folks anyone should treat as role models

Yes, I think we can add "hypocrite" to his other attributes. Along with his long history of sexual harassment (six women I believe?), slurs against homosexuals ("girlie men"), and after marrying into the Kennedy family for access to financial and political security, he got caught diddling the maid and fathering kids with her.

The guy is pure slime.

[oxmixmudd]

It's not slander. It's what you said:

Here's the exact exchange:





You dismissed my comment about attempted murder about "cheap points about your petty annoyances".

And I have explained that I was speaking of the entire thrust of your post(s) focusing on your disagreements with the Democrats over how the protests were handled in a time when a republican president has committed sedition and invoked an insurrection. I have also made clear that 'petty' applies to the relative pettiness of your obsession with those disagreements when compared to the seriousness of sedition.

So stop lying about what I meant. I have never, and will never, call concern about such an actual violent event 'petty'.

You've been called out for your minimization of violence. I'm sorry you don't like it, but the evidence backs it up. All you've done now is try to back-pedal because you got called out.

I will keep calling you out because you are just as much a part of the problem as the "cult people" you spin conspiracy theories about.

I have never minimized the violence this summer, and I did not minimize it in the post you quote. What I have done is disagree with you and others on OTHER issues related to those protests, and you and others have taken those disagreements as opportunities to SLANDER my character by making false accusations about me wrt my positions on violence.

The dishonest and malicious nature of the personal attacks here by people like you grows almost every week. You, godwanaland especially wrt your replies to me, but also rogue, sparko so many others. I've been guilty of it too on occasion. Can't we move away from that? We all seem unable to disagree with anyone without also directly slandering their character in the process.

[Gondwanaland]

its such an absurd complaint it doesn't deserve comment.

But clearly If you can't rebut, try to smear the man. You guys have hitched your wagon to a traitor and are so full of yourselves you are willing to bury yourselves along with him rather than admit you screwed up big time.

So be it.

As for Arnold - he has more integrity in his little finger than either of you will ever have.

Leetle Fingah you mean.

[Gondwanaland]

It's not slander. It's what you said:

Here's the exact exchange:





You dismissed my comment about attempted murder about "cheap points about your petty annoyances".

You've been called out for your minimization of violence. I'm sorry you don't like it, but the evidence backs it up. All you've done now is try to back-pedal because you got called out.

I will keep calling you out because you are just as much a part of the problem as the "cult people" you spin conspiracy theories about.

Don't forget actual murder - in Minneapolis they burned down a building with a person inside who died of smoke inhalation and thermal damage (i.e. burned alive). Just another 'petty annoyance'.

[CivilDiscourse]

And I have explained that I was speaking of the entire thrust of your post(s) focusing on your disagreements with the Democrats over how the protests were handled in a time when a republican president has committed sedition. I have also made clear that petty applies to the pettiness of your obsession with those disagreements when compared to the seriousness of sedition.

So stop lying about what I meant. I have never, and will never, call concern about such an actual violent event 'petty'.



I have never minimized the violence this summer, and I did not minimize it in the post you quote. What I have done is disagree with you and others on OTHER issues related to those protests, and you and others have taken those disagreements as opportunities to SLANDER my character by making false accusations about me wrt my positions on violence.

The dishonest and malicious nature of the personal attacks here by people like you grows almost every week. You, godwanaland, rogue, sparke so many others. You seem unable to disagree with anyone without also directly slandering their character in the process.

Oh, so what you are saying is this:

Attempted murder isn't petty. Complaining about people ignoring, downplaying, excusing, justifying attempted murder is petty.
That's much better.

[CivilDiscourse]

Don't forget actual murder - in Minneapolis they burned down a building with a person inside who died of smoke inhalation and thermal damage (i.e. burned alive). Just another 'petty annoyance'.

Well, it's petty to think we shouldn't ignore it.

[oxmixmudd]

Precisely.

Schwarzenegger is the summit of phoniness. Anyone who adds a musical soundtrack to his speech, while sitting in a mock governor's office, and pretends he's 20 years older than he really is, is a joke of unmatching magnitude. From your link:

"I philosophized that only a few men are born to lead, while the rest of humanity is born to follow, and went from that into discussing history's great conquerors and dictators," Schwarzenegger writes in his book. "I admired Hitler's speaking ability, though not what he did with it."

He's trying to capitalize on his accent to attract some attention - that's all. I guess people aren't paying enough attention to him lately, now that he's too old to make movies and no one wants him in politics.

Wrt Arnold's comment - you are actually committing slander. That comment does not make Arnold a supporter of Hitler any more than it makes the countless historians that have made note of Hitler's unusually stong skills in that area supporters of Hitler. Nor does it call into question the sincerity of his comment.. Hitler was an eceptional orator, which has been well documented and is in fact part of his success in deluding the German people. Any public speaker could wish for such skill without supporting the man himself.

As for the presentation of his comment. You'd rather I suppose it be a poorly produced amateur video that loses its audience after the first sentence? The man is a top tier film actor and very successful governor. He's not going to put out a public statement on such a critical matter for long term consumption that is not reasonably well produced.

[Chaotic Void]

Are there any rules against slander here? If so, will they be enforced on behalf off those 'management' does not like or agree with?

Fortunately for you, we don't moderate slander unless it falls under two categories:

1) Unsubstantiated Accusations of Lying
2) Unsubstantiated Accusations of Moral Turpitude (like saying another Twebber is a Pedophile)

[seanD]

Wrt Arnold's comment - you are actually committing slander. That comment does not make Arnold a supporter of Hitler any more than it makes the countless historians that have made note of Hitler's unusually stong skills in that area supporters of Hitler. Nor does it call into question the sincerity of his comment.. Hitler was an eceptional orator, which has been well documented and is in fact part of his success in deluding the German people. Any public speaker could wish for such skill without supporting the man himself.

As for the presentation of his comment. You'd rather I suppose it be a poorly produced amateur video that loses its audience after the first sentence? The man is a top tier film actor and very successful governor. He's not going to put out a public statement on such a critical matter for long term consumption that is not reasonably well produced.

Of course, folks like Ox will downplay it,

Hypocritical phonies are just too easy.

[Ronson]

Wrt Arnold's comment - you are actually committing slander.

Not in the least. Go check that definition again.

That comment does not make Arnold a supporter of Hitler any more than it makes the countless historians that have made note of Hitler's unusually stong skills in that area supporters of Hitler. Nor does it call into question the sincerity of his comment.. Hitler was an eceptional orator, which has been well documented and is in fact part of his success in deluding the German people. Any public speaker could wish for such skill without supporting the man himself.

As for the presentation of his comment. You'd rather I suppose it be a poorly produced amateur video that loses its audience after the first sentence? The man is a top tier film actor and very successful governor. He's not going to put out a public statement on such a critical matter for long term consumption that is not reasonably well produced.

Arnold is a washed-up actor, a washed-up politician, and an incredible phony who is trying to recapture the spotlight after ruining his reputation many times over. The fact you attach any sort of moral righteousness to him indicates you haven't been paying much attention to the man's history.

[CivilDiscourse]

Not in the least. Go check that definition again.



Arnold is a washed-up actor, a washed-up politician, and an incredible phony who is trying to recapture the spotlight after ruining his reputation many times over. The fact you attach any sort of moral righteousness to him indicates you haven't been paying much attention to the man's history.

Actually, odds are that if he's attaching righteousnouss to him it's not because of anything other than him siding with him.

[kccd]

Yes, I think we can add "hypocrite" to his other attributes. Along with his long history of sexual harassment (six women I believe?), slurs against homosexuals ("girlie men"), and after marrying into the Kennedy family for access to financial and political security, he got caught diddling the maid and fathering kids with her.

The guy is pure slime.

Interesting that you think Arnold is slime for his sexual transgressions and slurs against homosexuals, while your side thinks comparable behavior by Trump is A-OK.

[Mountain Man]

He's trying to capitalize on his accent to attract some attention - that's all.

Even his accent is phony. He's admitted that he can speak unaccented English but considers the accent his "trademark" and says it's what his fans want to hear, so he turns it on for the cameras.

[Mountain Man]

Wrt Arnold's comment - you are actually committing slander. That comment does not make Arnold a supporter of Hitler any more than it makes the countless historians that have made note of Hitler's unusually stong skills in that area supporters of Hitler.

I don't suppose you realize there is a significant difference between stating it as a plain fact that Hitler had strong speaking skills versus saying that one admires him for it.