Pedophilia - The Next Taboo To Fall?

[kiwimac]

Someone who is ok with abortion and homosexual relations is not a Christian.

That is your opinion. Noted and rejected.

[kiwimac]

They're not Scripture's sort of Christian.

Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.

[Jedidiah]

No, what actually happened was we started to grow up and to realise that consensual sex between two adults was really not a mental health issue.

Sorry I was a psych major back in the day. The stuff going on was in all the newspapers at the time. I was there, you can not honestly say that it was not what actually happened. You do not know anything about it.

[Jedidiah]

Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.

There is not one mention of shooting someone so would that be okay? There are plenty of applicable "mentions" in the Bible as has been discussed here multiple times.

[Tassman]

They're not Scripture's sort of Christian.

You mean that they're not your sort of Christian. But they are the majority of people who claim to be Christian and their views carry as much weight as yours.

[Starlight]

You mean that they're not your sort of Christian. But they are the majority of people who claim to be Christian and their views carry as much weight as yours.

Far more weight than his.

[kiwimac]

Sorry I was a psych major back in the day. The stuff going on was in all the newspapers at the time. I was there, you can not honestly say that it was not what actually happened. You do not know anything about it.

I was a bisexual teenager at the time, strangely, I think I might know what was happening as I was about.

[kiwimac]

There is not one mention of shooting someone so would that be okay? There are plenty of applicable "mentions" in the Bible as has been discussed here multiple times.

The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.

[Tassman]

The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.

Furthermore, it's reasonable to assume that this was the view that Jesus himself espoused as a Jew. He says nothing contrary to this view.

[Cerebrum123]

Not one mention of abortion in the Bible.

Plenty of mention of the sanctity of human life though, especially the innocent, and defenseless.

[Christianbookworm]

The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.

You really think that is an argument? Adam didn't begin the same way as the rest of us. And fetuses do have cellular respiration. They just breath through the placenta instead of their lungs. If a baby were taken from the womb and immediately put on a heart lung machine due to not being able to breathe in an EXIT procedure(they do a c-section and hook the baby up why still using the placenta for life support), would that baby still not be alive by your definition?

[Cerebrum123]

The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.

[Cow Poke]

It's interesting to note that the "old catholic priest" is so much more in line with some of our most notorious atheists than he is with the Christians on this board.

[Christianbookworm]

It's interesting to note that the "old catholic priest" is so much more in line with some of our most notorious atheists than he is with the Christians on this board.

Hmmm... maybe kiwimac should tell us who Jesus of Nazareth is?

[seer]

The argument here is that, in Christian theology, ensoulement takes place at conception; this is a position based almost entirely on Greek philosophy and was largely formulated by St. Augustine of Hippo. It has no counterpart in Hebrew theology and certainly not in the OT, In Hebrew thought ensoulment takes place at first breath, as it did for Adam and Eve, not at conception. The Bible reflects the former POV not the latter.

So what, we are still killing and innocent human beings. What is wrong with you? And if there is ambiguity (which there is not) should we not err on the side of life?