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World Religions is a theist only type place, but that does not exclude certain religionists who practice non-theistic faiths ala Buddhism. If you are not sure, ask a moderator.
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostAbsolutely not. I'm not even sure I have free will to make any decisions.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think one of the difficulties with this hypothetical is the fact that the premise is so.... how would one prove that Christ did not rise from the dead, beyond a shadow of a doubt? I mean, yeah, it's a hypothetical, but usually hypotheticals have at least some basis in fact or possibility."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by Jesse View PostOkay. Let's say that they found his body and proved through genetics that it was indeed Christ. I saw a documentary a while ago about geneticist thinking they found some relatives they believe to be his. So if you believe that genetics could prove it was him, that would be a good starting point.
Carry onThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I am fascinated by people who are CERTAIN about metaphysics, or even ordinary physics. Heck, I'm fascinated by people who are CERTAIN about their checkbook.
When I consider my history and the number of times I thought I was right about something and turned out to be wrong, I can't imagine being absolutely certain about anything. It's a foreign concept to me.
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostI am fascinated by people who are CERTAIN about metaphysics, or even ordinary physics. Heck, I'm fascinated by people who are CERTAIN about their checkbook.
When I consider my history and the number of times I thought I was right about something and turned out to be wrong, I can't imagine being absolutely certain about anything. It's a foreign concept to me."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by pancreasman View PostWell, Clawnus has chimed in with the predictable response already, but I'm trained as a scientist. I understand there are error bars around everything I assert. Yes, even that."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by Jesse View PostIs there really nothing that you believe for certain?Middle-of-the-road swing voter. Feel free to sway my opinion.
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Originally posted by Yttrium View PostI don't know about pancreasman, but there's one thing that I believe for certain. I believe that I exist. I can easily prove it to myself, since if I didn't exist, I wouldn't be able to wonder whether I exist or not."Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
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Originally posted by Jesse View PostAre you sure though? How do you know that your wondering is even wondering?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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This thread has gotten too deep for me."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
"And the Devil did grin, for his darling sin is pride that apes humility"-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Oh ye of little fiber. Do you not know what I've done for you? You will obey. ~Cerealman for Prez.
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