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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo you don't, we are all sinners, remember. If the above were true, we would all go to hell. According to your religion that is!
Well there are two conditions mentioned here. Those who overcome and are counted as children of God and are then therefore safe. And that everyone otherwise are indeed lost.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWell it is written, ". . . He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. . . ." Revelation 21:7-8 (Revelation 20:15; Revelation 3:5; 1 John 5:4, 9-12.)
Well there are two conditions mentioned here. Those who overcome and are counted as children of God and are then therefore safe. And that everyone otherwise are indeed lost.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOriginally posted by 37818 View PostWell it is written, ". . . He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. . . ." Revelation 21:7-8 (Revelation 20:15; Revelation 3:5; 1 John 5:4, 9-12.)
Well there are two conditions mentioned here. Those who overcome and are counted as children of God and are then therefore safe. And that everyone otherwise are indeed lost.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWhat is the silliness you refer to? Why is it silliness?
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostWell it is written, ". . . He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. . . ." Revelation 21:7-8 (Revelation 20:15; Revelation 3:5; 1 John 5:4, 9-12.)
Well there are two conditions mentioned here. Those who overcome and are counted as children of God and are then therefore safe. And that everyone otherwise are indeed lost.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostFor one thing the idea that you believe that god communicated those very words to men, and that men didn't cook them up themselves is silly. Second the idea that sinners, you know people, are going to burn in a lake of fire and brimstone in a second death is also silly. Why is it silly? Because there is no good reason to believe any of it!
Your claiming no good reason and having no reason to know you are right - you're being silly by your own standard.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYes it is written, by men. Who else would write it, God?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo you don't, we are all sinners, remember. If the above were true, we would all go to hell. According to your religion that is!
If you were convicted for a crime and thrown in prison, but were told that if you asked the governor, he could get you released, would that governor be the reason you were sent to prison? No, he might be the reason you get out, but the reason you are in prison was because you are a criminal.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBelieving in God is how we avoid going to hell.
"You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder." -James 2:19Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View PostOriginally posted by CatholicityGod doesn't send people to hellVeritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou mean like committing adultery? Poor Donald!Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOn the contrary, it is long-standing belief that people choose their fate. Not sure why you felt the need to exclude that part of her statement."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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