Christianity Is Dangerous

[firstfloor]

I think we should all just be appropriately afraid of power.

True, unless it’s the power that you approve of - then you are not afraid, but you should be? Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So beware of those who claim to know what the absolute power (God) wants.

[firstfloor]

Interesting because the Bible actually tells us to test everything and to hold onto what is good. Want to try this again?

The idea of testing faith by reason is oxymoronic. That is to say that evidence based knowledge and faith differ from each other because faith goes beyond evidence while reliable knowledge stays within the boundaries defined by evidence.

[Cerebrum123]

The idea of testing faith by reason is oxymoronic. That is to say that evidence based knowledge and faith differ from each other because faith goes beyond evidence while reliable knowledge stays within the boundaries defined by evidence.

No, this is only your misunderstanding of faith(the Greek is pistis, which is used of forensic type evidence) talking. It's best understood as loyalty based on past experience. Here's something that should help explain it.

[firstfloor]

No, this is only your misunderstanding of faith(the Greek is pistis, which is used of forensic type evidence) talking. It's best understood as loyalty based on past experience.

The Bible with its known history is evidence that the story can be traced to ancient times. The witness evidence that the story is true or not is lost to history - they're all dead. All you can do now is look at the story and try to decide which parts of it are mythical or legendary or possibly historical. Or you can have blind faith that it is all true. The details in the story are not themselves evidence of the truth of the story. Try reading some fiction to see what it feels like to read a story that you know is not true but yet has a compelling logic to it. This is not a very good example but might help with the explanation.
“These are the voyages of the starship, Enterprise ……” No they're not!

[Cerebrum123]

The Bible with its known history is evidence that the story can be traced to ancient times. The witness evidence that the story is true or not is lost to history - they're all dead. All you can do now is look at the story and try to decide which parts of it are mythical or legendary or possibly historical. Or you can have blind faith that it is all true. The details in the story are not themselves evidence of the truth of the story. Try reading some fiction to see what it feels like to read a story that you know is not true but yet has a compelling logic to it. This is not a very good example but might help with the explanation.
“These are the voyages of the starship, Enterprise ……” No they're not!

You obviously know nothing about things like genre, historical studies, or anything else pertinent to this discussion. You are obviously trolling at this point.

[firstfloor]

You obviously know nothing about things like genre, historical studies, or anything else pertinent to this discussion. You are obviously trolling at this point.

This is the stumped Christian response.

[Cerebrum123]

This is the stumped Christian response.

No, no it's not. I'm guessing you've never even seen a "stumped Christian", so you had to make up what one looks like in your head. Well, your imagination doesn't match reality. Refusing to play the game of a troll, is not being "stumped".

[Meh Gerbil]

Trout,
Dee Dee posted in my thread.
You owe me a coke.

-MehGerbil

[Trout]

Trout,
Dee Dee posted in my thread.
You owe me a coke.

-MehGerbil

In apologetics 301 no less. Never thought I'd lose that one.

[firstfloor]

No, no it's not. I'm guessing you've never even seen a "stumped Christian", so you had to make up what one looks like in your head. Well, your imagination doesn't match reality. Refusing to play the game of a troll, is not being "stumped".

[MaxVel]

Some replies are just too stupid to answer substantively.



Pro Tip: When trolling, don't get into a 'You said', 'No, you said' argument. It doesn't really drag in any bystanders, which is what you want.

[Juvenal]

Trout,
Dee Dee posted in my thread.
You owe me a coke.

-MehGerbil

Careful with the empty, rodent. You wouldn't want to lead the fishboi into aluminum-tinged varve-smoking temptation.

[One Bad Pig]

Mr Andius, what would be the best case study to validate your point that the skeptic's fear is based in paranoia? Which theocratic or ecclesiocratic system past or present represents good governance? Would it be Calvin's Geneva? Vatican city? Modern day Iran? Something else?

Vlad Tepes.

[seer]

excellent!

[Meh Gerbil]

Careful with the empty, rodent. You wouldn't want to lead the fishboi into aluminum-tinged varve-smoking temptation.

I only drink Coke out of glass bottles.
I found that Trout ignores me when I bounce plastic bottles off of his head.

Now I don't mean to be rude but I really have no more time for this thread.
I plan to spend the rest of the morning listening to Lady Gaga's Born This Way on YouTube.
I figure if Darthy can derive the theological underpinnings for his view of hell from Dante's Inferno I should be able to learn something about the virgin birth from Lady Gaga.