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The Roman Church response to the atrocious scandals; "The Devil made me do it!"
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostCatholics use a confessional, with a screen separating the one confessing from the priest. Those aren't used in Orthodoxy, but in my parish there is always someone else present chanting psalms, close enough to see but not overhear."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI believe a number of churches have the option of confessing to God in the presence of a priest or minister, but in the Roman Church it is mandatory.It is the celibacy and the unquestioned authority of the hierarchy of the priesthood that makes the Roman Church vulnerableon such a world scale on a grand scale found in no other church nor religion.
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Many and painful are the researches sometimes necessary to be made, for settling points of [this] kind. Pertness and ignorance may ask a question in three lines, which it will cost learning and ingenuity thirty pages to answer. When this is done, the same question shall be triumphantly asked again the next year, as if nothing had ever been written upon the subject.
George Horne
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Shunya, pretty please, could you, for once, manage to accurately capture the gist of an article in your comments? Thanks.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Okay Shunyadragon, this has got to stop. You quote an article and then you intentionally and with full malice change the headline. You quote the article as saying
"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"
But its actually title is
"EXORCISMS SURGE"
I have a non-broken link to it here, so people can read it for themselves. https://www.catholicleague.org/exorcisms-surge/
This is slander Shunya.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostOkay Shunyadragon, this has got to stop. You quote an article and then you intentionally and with full malice change the headline. You quote the article as saying
"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"
But its actually title is
"EXORCISMS SURGE"
I have a non-broken link to it here, so people can read it for themselves. https://www.catholicleague.org/exorcisms-surge/
This is slander Shunya.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostShunya, pretty please, could you, for once, manage to accurately capture the gist of an article in your comments? Thanks.Last edited by Tassman; 11-25-2018, 11:18 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe Patheos take on The Atlantic article I think may be that to which shunya is referring, namely: "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons". The Atlantic article to which it's referring is linked within this article, so you can read it for yourself.
I'm shocked, shocked, that you would think so.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe Patheos take on The Atlantic article I think may be that to which shunya is referring, namely: "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons". The Atlantic article to which it's referring is linked within this article, so you can read it for yourself.
I'm having a really hard time believing he did that on accidant. If it he did he's bordering on metal incoherence (which would surprise me that much).
The fact of the matter is that the title of the article on the Catholic Leage was "EXORCISM SURGE"
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThe Atlantic article didn't say "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons", Catholic League didn't say that either. It is the title of the Friendly Atheist article, and Shunya cross-pasted it onto the quote of the article.
I'm having a really hard time believing he did that on accidant. If it he did he's bordering on metal incoherence (which would surprise me that much).
The fact of the matter is that the title of the article on the Catholic Leage was "EXORCISM SURGE"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis is part of the reason I used to get Shunya and Tassy confused with one another - they both seem to have a similar "anything goes" approach to "winning" their "debates".
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI pretty much check any source either of them give at this point. They either misrepresent what it says, or leave out stuff that contradicts the point they think it makes.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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