The Roman Church response to the atrocious scandals; "The Devil made me do it!"

[shunyadragon]

I agree to the extent that having a celibate clergy reduces the possibility of acceptable sexual outlets, which then find satisfaction in utterly unacceptable ways such as with children. But the Protestant congregations have also had their sexual problems with the likes of Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard. "several prominent evangelical institutions have been rocked in recent weeks by their own sexual misconduct allegations against pastors and church leaders who exploited the trust they had gained from faithful churchgoers."

https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-us...-in-metoo-era/



Doctrinal correction: One is confessing to God in the presence of a priest, not to the priest himself.

I believe a number of churches have the option of confessing to God in the presence of a priest or minister, but in the Roman Church it is mandatory. It is the celibacy and the unquestioned authority of the hierarchy of the priesthood that makes the Roman Church vulnerable on such a world scale on a grand scale found in no other church nor religion.

[KingsGambit]

Catholics use a confessional, with a screen separating the one confessing from the priest. Those aren't used in Orthodoxy, but in my parish there is always someone else present chanting psalms, close enough to see but not overhear.

In any event, I don't think the bulk of the molestations in the RCC have been taking place during confession.

[Tassman]

I believe a number of churches have the option of confessing to God in the presence of a priest or minister, but in the Roman Church it is mandatory.

It is the celibacy and the unquestioned authority of the hierarchy of the priesthood that makes the Roman Church vulnerable

on such a world scale on a grand scale found in no other church nor religion.

https://www.apnews.com/b768d035ed8443ad97d193a5c36e240c

[mattbballman31]

[shunyadragon]

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...ics.../336618/

Source: https://www.catholicleague.org/exorcisms-surge/

"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"

© Copyright Original Source

[One Bad Pig]

Shunya, pretty please, could you, for once, manage to accurately capture the gist of an article in your comments? Thanks.

[Leonhard]

Could you also for once copy paste a weblink without breaking it.

[Leonhard]

Okay Shunyadragon, this has got to stop. You quote an article and then you intentionally and with full malice change the headline. You quote the article as saying

"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"

But its actually title is

"EXORCISMS SURGE"

I have a non-broken link to it here, so people can read it for themselves. https://www.catholicleague.org/exorcisms-surge/

This is slander Shunya.

[seer]

Okay Shunyadragon, this has got to stop. You quote an article and then you intentionally and with full malice change the headline. You quote the article as saying

"Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Attract Demons"

But its actually title is

"EXORCISMS SURGE"

I have a non-broken link to it here, so people can read it for themselves. https://www.catholicleague.org/exorcisms-surge/

This is slander Shunya.

Shuny lies again...

[Tassman]

Shunya, pretty please, could you, for once, manage to accurately capture the gist of an article in your comments? Thanks.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...ttract-demons/

[One Bad Pig]

The Patheos take on The Atlantic article I think may be that to which shunya is referring, namely: "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons". The Atlantic article to which it's referring is linked within this article, so you can read it for yourself.

Thanks. The headline used by "Friendly Atheist" (not Patheos, which is in no way responsible for users' content) isn't bad for a headline. You're not helping shunya by pointing out that he can't even keep his sources straight, adding to his unforced errors.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...ttract-demons/

I'm shocked, shocked, that you would think so.

[Leonhard]

The Patheos take on The Atlantic article I think may be that to which shunya is referring, namely: "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons". The Atlantic article to which it's referring is linked within this article, so you can read it for yourself.

The Atlantic article didn't say "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons", Catholic League didn't say that either. It is the title of the Friendly Atheist article, and Shunya cross-pasted it onto the quote of the article.

I'm having a really hard time believing he did that on accidant. If it he did he's bordering on metal incoherence (which would surprise me that much).

The fact of the matter is that the title of the article on the Catholic Leage was "EXORCISM SURGE"

[Cow Poke]

The Atlantic article didn't say "Catholic League: Sexual Abuse Victims Need Exorcisms Because They Attract Demons", Catholic League didn't say that either. It is the title of the Friendly Atheist article, and Shunya cross-pasted it onto the quote of the article.

I'm having a really hard time believing he did that on accidant. If it he did he's bordering on metal incoherence (which would surprise me that much).

The fact of the matter is that the title of the article on the Catholic Leage was "EXORCISM SURGE"

This is part of the reason I used to get Shunya and Tassy confused with one another - they both seem to have a similar "anything goes" approach to "winning" their "debates".

[Sparko]

This is part of the reason I used to get Shunya and Tassy confused with one another - they both seem to have a similar "anything goes" approach to "winning" their "debates".

I pretty much check any source either of them give at this point. They either misrepresent what it says, or leave out stuff that contradicts the point they think it makes.

[Cow Poke]

I pretty much check any source either of them give at this point. They either misrepresent what it says, or leave out stuff that contradicts the point they think it makes.

But Tassy does it with GUSTO!