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So Easy To Be An Atheist!
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSee it worked! Those ruby red slippers are magical! So glad I could help...
I'll leave the last word to you, unless you ask a question I have not previously answered or actually make a substantive argument.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSeer - you're trolling. And you aren't really making any substantive arguments, so this is largely a waste of my time.
I'll leave the last word to you, unless you ask a question I have not previously answered or actually make a substantive argument.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Whenever I see this thread title I'm like "okay seer, sure, if it's so easy to be an atheist that sounds great, so I'll be an atheist now then"..."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut neither we or our communities actually have significance, as you already agreed...
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostWe and our communities have great significance to us. But they do not have significance in your escapist sense, whereby our lives are a mere dress-rehearsal for 'pie in the sky when you die'...or eternal torment. These are merely the foolish dreams of mortal men.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWhenever I see this thread title I'm like "okay seer, sure, if it's so easy to be an atheist that sounds great, so I'll be an atheist now then"...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seer View PostRight, like an ant community has significance to them. You are not saying anything...
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI think the latest exchange with Seer essentially confirms that this thread is just an example of trolling. I doubt it was never intended for serious discussion.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by JimL View PostActually he is saying something, it's just that you don't get it. I'm not even sure you understand what you mean by "significance." And btw, if you don't think that ants have significance, why would you think that people do? I think I know why you think that. It's because you can't bear the thought that you are not ultimately special, that like an ant you are a conglomeration of atoms that upon your death will go on to form something else, perhaps an ant! But, that's what we do, oblivion is a difficult thing to face, and it is only human beings that have to face it, so we create stories which depict us as special beings, unrelated to the rest of nature and the ways thereof.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostNo Carp, the thread was not about trolling, I may have trolled you a bit.
Originally posted by seer View PostI mean after all when you said that you have value how is than anymore than an assertion?Last edited by carpedm9587; 09-09-2018, 01:04 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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I never said it was anything other than an assertion. My life has value - to me. All life has value - to me. "Value" is an assessment made by a valuer - a sentient being. So if my life has value to me - then my life has value to at least one person - ergo it has value. If no one values a thing - then it has no value.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostRight, like an ant community has significance to them. You are not saying anything...Last edited by Tassman; 09-10-2018, 12:42 AM.
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Originally posted by seer View PostOK, so basing your value, or human value, on assertion, and nothing more, is good enough for you. I will remember that going forward.
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Originally posted by seer View PostJim oblivion is not a difficult thing to face, you wouldn't know anything. Now hell - that would be difficult to face..."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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